You should join them at the events.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 10, 2014 11:53 AM, "That One Guy via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I used to despise powercode, stuff was always breaking, but the last year
> or two they have moved forward to be a pretty solid product. It eliminates
> a ton of other systems, spreadsheets in particular. The boss loves the
> billing side of it, I stay out of that. I believe they will do a live demo
> on your network, no harm, no foul if you dont like it.
>
> I dont like that they cant provide alot of specs on server builds and
> stuff like alot of products do, I would prefer they provide a billing
> server appliance thats realistic in cost and a virtual appliance you can
> dump on robust hardware, but those are small potato complaints. If youre a
> linux guy, then its a moot point. Their support is probably better than
> alot of companies, even though I complain that they dont drop everything
> theyre doing to focus directly on me, theyre actually very responsive to
> issues, usually having a solution, or pathway to a solution within a day or
> two if its a complex issue.
>
> The only actual legitimate complaint I have with them is around events
> like wispapalooza they shortstaff, but they gotta make that cheddar.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Don't ask Steve anything serious!!!
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm thinking about changing  how do u like power code?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 10:10 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Powercode is Static DHCP, MAC reservations from a non dynamic pool, if
>>> there is no device registered with that mac it pulls from a dynamic pool
>>> for each POP and all that traffic is redirected to the powercode web server
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have 2 different IP address pools. I had thought about dhcp  but I
>>>> would like to see the router incase I needed to access it for firmware
>>>> upgrades etc
>>>>
>>>> We use swift fox for monitoring and billing
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:58 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now that DHCP is reliable its DHCP, everything is DHCP that way we can
>>>> move customer IP space at whim. If a customer throws in one of our
>>>> replacement routers we either pill the MAC from the bridge table on the
>>>> SM/AP and update it or watch the DHCP log in the BMU to either pull the MAC
>>>> (if its their personal router) or log into the catch all IP theyre handed
>>>> if its ours to get it and complete the set up
>>>> If powercode would set it up to where the redirect page pulled the IP
>>>> the customer is coming from and compared it to the DHCP log, customers
>>>> could even self provision their own devices, but they say its not possible,
>>>> so it does require a call in to tech support to provision, unless they can
>>>> get on the horn with their router vendor to get the WAN MAC, since all the
>>>> boxes list the wireless or LAN MAC for some reason
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does ur config script set a static ip or dhcp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:40 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> thats the very reason we use the air router
>>>>> DHCP used to not be reliable through powercode so we needed a way to
>>>>> ensure that they couldnt reset them and have no service. We just created a
>>>>> default config with our remote access and the reset button disabled the
>>>>> techs load in at installation time. anything specific to the customer is
>>>>> named CHANGEME including the device name, that way they know what to 
>>>>> change
>>>>> and the ones that werent configured completely are easy to ID. We also
>>>>> leave some of these with the default config file loaded into them at our
>>>>> retail shop, that way customers can just pick one up if their personal
>>>>> router is causing trouble or if our air router fails (which suprisingly 
>>>>> for
>>>>> 28 bucks, they rarely do)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't nat at sm and the tech test speed at Poe I don't allow speed
>>>>>> tests via wireless  and we leave a 3 ft cable on lan side of ubnt Poe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the air router allow u to disable reset button?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:19 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> are you NAT at the SM? it depends on whether youre bridging or NAT.
>>>>>> If youre briddging, like us, throwing the router in saves on support 
>>>>>> calls.
>>>>>> If they opt to use their own router, then all your support needs to do is
>>>>>> give them the manufacturers support number, also it eliminates support on
>>>>>> wireless issues. We throw in a 28 dolar air router, set the ESSID with a
>>>>>> set key that doesnt change, any issue on the wireless on that and we tell
>>>>>> them to contect their end device manufacturer and provide them the ESSID
>>>>>> and key. we dont give them a personalized key. Ever since we started 
>>>>>> this,
>>>>>> the number of wireless issues we have had to support is zero. We do leave
>>>>>> an extra patch cord and dont accept speedtests over wireless. Most people
>>>>>> who say everything is wireless dont even realize their laptop has an
>>>>>> ethernet connection on it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My tech is required to do a speed test on every install and. Right
>>>>>>> now We just go to the power supply and customer does the rest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On Nov 9, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > FYI, I recommend leaving a spare Ethernet cable plugged into the
>>>>>>> router.  I used to insist that people do a speedtest from a wired 
>>>>>>> computer,
>>>>>>> but it's becoming very common for people to say everything is WiFi.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af
>>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:18 AM
>>>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I never did, the SM has enough to control what you need to from
>>>>>>> the provider side.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I prefer a demarcation at the SM/ONT and let the customer be
>>>>>>> responsible for their side of their network.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > If I had done managed router then I would have gotten double the
>>>>>>> calls for everyones NAT to their Xbox and filtering etc.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > What this industry needs is a way for the consumer to know for
>>>>>>> themselves if their provider is the network issue, or their router.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I'm working on an app/site for that right now that they can use
>>>>>>> their phone/device to tell them if it's their problem or the providers.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Marsh
>>>>>>> via Af
>>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:48 PM
>>>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Sm on the side of the house
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Do you already have a CPE/ONT device at their house/building?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Marsh
>>>>>>> via Af
>>>>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:09 PM
>>>>>>> >> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Doing a new area should I put a managed router at every customer
>>>>>>> house or business or just let them do their own ?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>>> not
>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
>>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>

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