We have 2 different IP address pools. I had thought about dhcp  but I would 
like to see the router incase I needed to access it for firmware upgrades etc

We use swift fox for monitoring and billing 

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> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:58 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Now that DHCP is reliable its DHCP, everything is DHCP that way we can move 
> customer IP space at whim. If a customer throws in one of our replacement 
> routers we either pill the MAC from the bridge table on the SM/AP and update 
> it or watch the DHCP log in the BMU to either pull the MAC (if its their 
> personal router) or log into the catch all IP theyre handed if its ours to 
> get it and complete the set up
> If powercode would set it up to where the redirect page pulled the IP the 
> customer is coming from and compared it to the DHCP log, customers could even 
> self provision their own devices, but they say its not possible, so it does 
> require a call in to tech support to provision, unless they can get on the 
> horn with their router vendor to get the WAN MAC, since all the boxes list 
> the wireless or LAN MAC for some reason
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Does ur config script set a static ip or dhcp 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:40 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> thats the very reason we use the air router
>>> DHCP used to not be reliable through powercode so we needed a way to ensure 
>>> that they couldnt reset them and have no service. We just created a default 
>>> config with our remote access and the reset button disabled the techs load 
>>> in at installation time. anything specific to the customer is named 
>>> CHANGEME including the device name, that way they know what to change and 
>>> the ones that werent configured completely are easy to ID. We also leave 
>>> some of these with the default config file loaded into them at our retail 
>>> shop, that way customers can just pick one up if their personal router is 
>>> causing trouble or if our air router fails (which suprisingly for 28 bucks, 
>>> they rarely do)
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> We don't nat at sm and the tech test speed at Poe I don't allow speed 
>>>> tests via wireless  and we leave a 3 ft cable on lan side of ubnt Poe 
>>>> 
>>>> Does the air router allow u to disable reset button?
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:19 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> are you NAT at the SM? it depends on whether youre bridging or NAT. If 
>>>>> youre briddging, like us, throwing the router in saves on support calls. 
>>>>> If they opt to use their own router, then all your support needs to do is 
>>>>> give them the manufacturers support number, also it eliminates support on 
>>>>> wireless issues. We throw in a 28 dolar air router, set the ESSID with a 
>>>>> set key that doesnt change, any issue on the wireless on that and we tell 
>>>>> them to contect their end device manufacturer and provide them the ESSID 
>>>>> and key. we dont give them a personalized key. Ever since we started 
>>>>> this, the number of wireless issues we have had to support is zero. We do 
>>>>> leave an extra patch cord and dont accept speedtests over wireless. Most 
>>>>> people who say everything is wireless dont even realize their laptop has 
>>>>> an ethernet connection on it
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> My tech is required to do a speed test on every install and. Right now 
>>>>>> We just go to the power supply and customer does the rest.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> > On Nov 9, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > FYI, I recommend leaving a spare Ethernet cable plugged into the 
>>>>>> > router.  I used to insist that people do a speedtest from a wired 
>>>>>> > computer, but it's becoming very common for people to say everything 
>>>>>> > is WiFi.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af
>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:18 AM
>>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I never did, the SM has enough to control what you need to from the 
>>>>>> > provider side.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I prefer a demarcation at the SM/ONT and let the customer be 
>>>>>> > responsible for their side of their network.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If I had done managed router then I would have gotten double the calls 
>>>>>> > for everyones NAT to their Xbox and filtering etc.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > What this industry needs is a way for the consumer to know for 
>>>>>> > themselves if their provider is the network issue, or their router.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I'm working on an app/site for that right now that they can use their 
>>>>>> > phone/device to tell them if it's their problem or the providers.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Marsh via Af
>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:48 PM
>>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sm on the side of the house
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Do you already have a CPE/ONT device at their house/building?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Marsh via 
>>>>>> >> Af
>>>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:09 PM
>>>>>> >> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Doing a new area should I put a managed router at every customer 
>>>>>> >> house or business or just let them do their own ?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
>>>>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you 
>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
>>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you 
>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not 
>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't 
> get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a 
> hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

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