Dude aren't you in Illinois?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> you guys get too much snow up there
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Simon Westlake via Af <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>  http://www.indeed.com/job/tier-3-technical-support-c4c4abce9d83d26f
>>
>> Come work for us and solve that problem! We're trying to hire a couple
>> more tier 3 support guys right now.
>>
>>
>>  The only actual legitimate complaint I have with them is around events
>> like wispapalooza they shortstaff, but they gotta make that cheddar.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't ask Steve anything serious!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>  Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I'm thinking about changing  how do u like power code?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 10:10 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Powercode is Static DHCP, MAC reservations from a non dynamic pool,
>>>> if there is no device registered with that mac it pulls from a dynamic pool
>>>> for each POP and all that traffic is redirected to the powercode web server
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  We have 2 different IP address pools. I had thought about dhcp  but
>>>>> I would like to see the router incase I needed to access it for firmware
>>>>> upgrades etc
>>>>>
>>>>>  We use swift fox for monitoring and billing
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:58 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Now that DHCP is reliable its DHCP, everything is DHCP that way we
>>>>> can move customer IP space at whim. If a customer throws in one of our
>>>>> replacement routers we either pill the MAC from the bridge table on the
>>>>> SM/AP and update it or watch the DHCP log in the BMU to either pull the 
>>>>> MAC
>>>>> (if its their personal router) or log into the catch all IP theyre handed
>>>>> if its ours to get it and complete the set up
>>>>> If powercode would set it up to where the redirect page pulled the IP
>>>>> the customer is coming from and compared it to the DHCP log, customers
>>>>> could even self provision their own devices, but they say its not 
>>>>> possible,
>>>>> so it does require a call in to tech support to provision, unless they can
>>>>> get on the horn with their router vendor to get the WAN MAC, since all the
>>>>> boxes list the wireless or LAN MAC for some reason
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Does ur config script set a static ip or dhcp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:40 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   thats the very reason we use the air router
>>>>>> DHCP used to not be reliable through powercode so we needed a way to
>>>>>> ensure that they couldnt reset them and have no service. We just created 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> default config with our remote access and the reset button disabled the
>>>>>> techs load in at installation time. anything specific to the customer is
>>>>>> named CHANGEME including the device name, that way they know what to 
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> and the ones that werent configured completely are easy to ID. We also
>>>>>> leave some of these with the default config file loaded into them at our
>>>>>> retail shop, that way customers can just pick one up if their personal
>>>>>> router is causing trouble or if our air router fails (which suprisingly 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> 28 bucks, they rarely do)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  We don't nat at sm and the tech test speed at Poe I don't allow
>>>>>>> speed tests via wireless  and we leave a 3 ft cable on lan side of ubnt 
>>>>>>> Poe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Does the air router allow u to disable reset button?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:19 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   are you NAT at the SM? it depends on whether youre bridging or
>>>>>>> NAT. If youre briddging, like us, throwing the router in saves on 
>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>> calls. If they opt to use their own router, then all your support needs 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do is give them the manufacturers support number, also it eliminates
>>>>>>> support on wireless issues. We throw in a 28 dolar air router, set the
>>>>>>> ESSID with a set key that doesnt change, any issue on the wireless on 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> and we tell them to contect their end device manufacturer and provide 
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> the ESSID and key. we dont give them a personalized key. Ever since we
>>>>>>> started this, the number of wireless issues we have had to support is 
>>>>>>> zero.
>>>>>>> We do leave an extra patch cord and dont accept speedtests over 
>>>>>>> wireless.
>>>>>>> Most people who say everything is wireless dont even realize their 
>>>>>>> laptop
>>>>>>> has an ethernet connection on it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My tech is required to do a speed test on every install and. Right
>>>>>>>> now We just go to the power supply and customer does the rest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  > On Nov 9, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > FYI, I recommend leaving a spare Ethernet cable plugged into the
>>>>>>>> router.  I used to insist that people do a speedtest from a wired 
>>>>>>>> computer,
>>>>>>>> but it's becoming very common for people to say everything is WiFi.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af
>>>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:18 AM
>>>>>>>>  > To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I never did, the SM has enough to control what you need to from
>>>>>>>> the provider side.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I prefer a demarcation at the SM/ONT and let the customer be
>>>>>>>> responsible for their side of their network.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > If I had done managed router then I would have gotten double the
>>>>>>>> calls for everyones NAT to their Xbox and filtering etc.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > What this industry needs is a way for the consumer to know for
>>>>>>>> themselves if their provider is the network issue, or their router.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I'm working on an app/site for that right now that they can use
>>>>>>>> their phone/device to tell them if it's their problem or the providers.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Marsh
>>>>>>>> via Af
>>>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:48 PM
>>>>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Sm on the side of the house
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Do you already have a CPE/ONT device at their house/building?
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph
>>>>>>>> Marsh via Af
>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:09 PM
>>>>>>>> >> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Doing a new area should I put a managed router at every customer
>>>>>>>> house or business or just let them do their own ?
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. 
>>>>>>> Therefore, if
>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>>>> means, do
>>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, 
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>>> not
>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
>> powercode.com
>> P: 920-351-1010
>> E: [email protected]
>>
>
>
>
> --
> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>

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