On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Why do you need to access CPE that aren't directly accessible
multiple times a day?
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Mike Hammett
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*From:*"Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
But I don’t think he’s talking how a skilled person could
MacGyver it, but rather a session list right there in the GUI
with every subscriber listed by name, and you click on the name
and shazzam, you are logged into that SM.
Like one of many things that pisses me off about my $10K Purewave
basestation is you can see a list of CPE MAC addresses by
subscriber name, but if you want to see any stats or change the
config for that subscriber, you have to find him by his MAC
address, not by name. The expensive piece of crap equipment has
all the information to make your life easy, but no, it acts like
a glorified MIB browser. They even rolled out an NMS that I
assumed would add this level of intelligence, but no.
So yes in a pinch you could probably get there through some MAC
telnet tricks. But with the AP proxy feature, it’s one click and
boom. If you don’t find it useful, fine. Most of us use it
multiple times every day. It’s a cool feature.
*From:*Mathew Howard via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:50 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
If there's a mac-telnet package out there for linux, you kind of
have to wonder why it isn't already in airOS... and ePMP, for
that matter. it seems like it would be pretty simple to add and
incredibly useful.
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*From:*Af [[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] on
behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>]
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:45 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
I never really had a need for it. I now no longer have any PMP
devices on my network.
Now that I deploy any new Mikrotik wireless either, but if you
can get to any Mikrotik device on that layer 2 segment, you can
get to the rest. Router, AP, CPE, doesn't matter.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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*From:*"Steve D via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*To:*"af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:01:01 PM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Mike,
You sound like you're trying to excuse it for not being there
instead of just embracing a good feature that works? Yes, there
are ways around, BUT, the Canopy AP-SM proxy *just works*. No
thinking about how to get to that SM is required, if you can get
to the AP then you can get to the SM - end of story.
-Steve D
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett via Af<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
Use the CLI to fix whatever's wrong with accessing the GUI?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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*From:*"Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Possibly a little simpler with similar results. It gets you
a CLI on the target client. The proxy is nice because you
can run the web gui.
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bp
<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>
On 12/18/2014 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
With Mikrotik you can mac-telnet or mac-winbox to
anything on that layer 2 segment. That sounds more useful
than this proxy.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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*From:*"Vlad Sedov via Af"mailto:[email protected]
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the
internal network between the AP and the SMs
(169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so smooth.
With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having
the right IP address set in the SM before you can manage
it (even when connecting from the AP).
We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS
mapping a major headache.. We don't pre-map SMs before
they go out into the field, so with ePMPs, I have to
create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in
the closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get
into the SM.. Change IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat.
Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I
really, really hope it gets properly implemented.
Vlad
On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be
done with epmp?
Josh Luthman
Office:937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct:937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
For our install method proxy access (or some
means of remote access to a minimally configured
CPE) is a must have. The installers do NOT have
to get out a computer or otherwise access the
device. Power it up, point it at the tower,
listen for signal, call the office for a signal
quality check and go. Everything regarding CPE
programming can be done remotely.
This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the
AP's and then to the CPE but it's not as clean as
Canopy.
No way at all that I know of with ePMP.
Mark
On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Use it all the time. Between it and
installer color code field techs can't FUBAR
an install. When our larger networks were
vlan'd years ago that made the process super
safe.
One of the "best features" of the canopy
platform in my book. It annoys me working on
802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd
something like an IP or vlan.
On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via Af"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Me too.
I don't know how many times I've used it,
but it's more than I have finger to count on.
--
bp
<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot}
com>
On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
No, rather just have it.
On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman
via Af wrote:
Rather have it and not need it
then need it and not have it.
Josh Luthman
Office:937-552-2340
<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct:937-552-2343
<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike
Hammett via Af" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I used it a couple times on
my Canopy gear, but it was
never a show-stopper to not
have it.
This brings me to a new post...
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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*From:*"George Skorup (Cyber
Broadcasting) via Af"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To:*[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Wednesday, December
17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
*Subject:*[AFMUG] ePMP proxy
OK Cambium ePMP dudes and
chicks, I am disappointed. I
thought you guys
had Canopy-like SM
"click-thru" access, aka LUID
proxy. But this is not
the case on 2.3.3. All you
give me is a URL with the IP
of the SM.
Informational helpful, yes,
operationally helpful, no.
I'm guessing you need an RF
private network like exists
on Canopy to
make this work. Please do it.
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