wow. i see 200+ commercials a month on late night tv (i fast forward through 
them) for fly-by-night computer repair programs.
i don't trust a one of them...

there was a company or two at wispa shows (pccaresupport.com? ) but i'm not 
sure they made it.  haven't seen them in a year or so.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ken Hohhof via Af 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support


  The latter.  Not tier1 support.

  From: Josh Luthman via Af 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:25 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support

  Are you looking for tier1 support center or an over the phone PC repair shop?

  If they can't afford $100 to fix their $1000 Macbooks they will just end up 
buying a new $1000 Macbook.  Give them 2-3 possible solutions and apologize 
that you can't help them.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote: 
    Is there a service out there?  For stuff that's clearly not our problem?

    I'm trying to take a firmer stance about not spending an hour on the phone 
walking someone through fixing their computer or router, because they are too 
lazy to Google it or use the manufacturer's website, or haven't a clue when it 
comes to computers.

    I give them the number for a computer shop, but often they say I can't pay 
$100 to have someone fix my computer or router or printer or smart TV.  My 
business is at the size where I'm not big enough to make computer repair a 
profit center, but if I keep doing this stuff for free, I'm going to have to 
hire someone to do it, and that's not a cost I can absorb.

    Is there a place maybe with call centers in India that will do this for 
less?  I know the telcos offer this service for a monthly fee, and I assume 
they are outsourcing it.  Note that I'm not talking about phone support for 
Internet problems.

    Oh, and kudos to Apple for fixing the NTP vulnerability without asking 
permission.  I can't believe the media is portraying this in a negative light.  
I'm tired of people who don't keep their computers and routers and other 
devices updated.  Do people drive their cars until the engine freezes up 
because they are too lazy or cheap or clueless to get the oil changed?  I 
suppose some do.  Maybe we need the government to come do all these things for 
us. 

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