​pretty much...

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From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>

Everyone uses Chrome nowadays.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jeremy 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Example:  Powercode mostly loads and then seems to hang for quite awhile on 
Firefox, but loads fast on Chrome.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jeremy 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I've never used EPMP but I have noticed some interfaces lag on one browser and 
not on another.  What browser is everyone using when they see lag?  What 
browser are those of you who aren't seeing lag using?

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ken Hohhof 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Good job of merging 2 threads!  You win one free Internet!

From: Chuck McCown<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:48 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>

Yeah but you bought the advantage GUI license, right?

From: Sean Heskett<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>

less than 5 seconds on my iPhone as well.



On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I doubt that 4 of my high end machines all have the same problem.  The 
interface takes too long when it first shows up.  Maybe it's because it gets 
all the information at once, maybe not.  Don't care.  I want it to be more 
smooth and faster.

My phone (Droid Maxx) is one of the most recent models for Android.  The 
interface is terribly slow and clumsy on that.

Well if you feel a poor technology choice was the cause, that's fine, but it's 
just flat out wrong.  I don't want to carry a big fat i7 laptop up the tower 
when I could just simply use my phone.  It works with Ubiquiti, FSK Cambium, 
Tranzeo, Trango, Mikrotik, etc it should only make sense the one product with a 
clumsy interface needs fixed instead of changing my devices that work with the 
competitors products (as well as different products under their portfolio).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sean Heskett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
i'm just stating that on all of our computers i've never seen the ePMP page 
load slowly.

maybe it's a computer problem and not a device problem, just trying to bring 
valid input to the discussion.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Why are you/others arguing that the speed is just fine?  This doesn't even make 
sense.  There are people with slower laptops that work with other modern 
devices and epmp is the only interface that loads slow.  There's no point in 
arguing peoples valid complaints.  Are you trying to direct the engineers 
attention to something else?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Three, maybe four seconds to load the initial screen and then two maybe three 
seconds to login. As I doubt a screen capture will work when I'm RDPed in, I'll 
record the entire login process when I get home and post it up on YouTube.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

________________________________
From: "Josh Luthman" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:26:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>

Login takes forever.  The first like 10-15 seconds just load and load and load. 
 Once you're in, it's acceptable in terms of page rendering.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Sean Heskett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
we use macbook pro's and the ePMP GUI has never been slow for us.  It was UGLY, 
but they fixed that with version 2.0 haha.

not sure why everyone says it's slow tho because we've never seen it.

2 cents

-sean



On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Nate Burke 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad.  My Field Laptop, a Lenovo S10-3t, Atom 
Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB Pages in a timely manner.  
We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial load, and 20-30 seconds per screen 
refresh/menu change.  Since I'm going to have to go to the boss, and tell him 
that I need a new laptop to do any field troubleshooting for these new radios, 
what are the minimum system specs for a machine to view the EPMP Screens?  
Unless Cambium is going to get their Web interface under control as of 
Yesterday.

They still swear that the GUI was all developed in house and not purchased 
(something I still can't believe).  I'd like to know who the engineers/managers 
are who signed off on that design.  I can only imaging that there was a group 
of guys sitting around the conference table, watching the presentation on the 
GUI on the projector up front, all nodding their heads in agreement, "I think 
this is a wonderful layout, the field tech's won't mind waiting a couple extra 
minutes for the pages to load so they can look this pretty!!"

I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers from ALL aspects of 
product development out into the field.  40 seconds waiting for the page to 
load is fine when you're sitting in the office, but not when you have the 
laptop balanced on a stack of firewood in the freezing rain trying to get to 
the monitoring page to see why a radio isn't linking up.  I think that every 
WISP on this list would be more than happy to host an engineer for a day. Heck, 
even if they go into the parking lot and assemble it on the tailgate of 
someone's Pickup, they'll get some idea of what we experience.

I have a feeling that if all steps of the Dev process took a week in the field, 
We'd have a radio that had a GUI that responded instantly on any device, and 
radios that assembled and mounted (and unmounted) with 1 gloved hand.

</rant>
Nate










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