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Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
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> Chrome (no version attached) has 61% market share
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> On January 20, 2015 10:31:25 AM AKST, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>  But wait until Windows 10 comes out with the Spartan browser.
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>>  *From:* Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:13 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0
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>> According to that everyone still uses Internet Explorer.  I promise I'm
>> as shocked as you are.
>>
>>  Everyone uses Chrome nowadays.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Example:  Powercode mostly loads and then seems to hang for quite awhile
>>> on Firefox, but loads fast on Chrome.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've never used EPMP but I have noticed some interfaces lag on one
>>>> browser and not on another.  What browser is everyone using when they see
>>>> lag?  What browser are those of you who aren't seeing lag using?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   Good job of merging 2 threads!  You win one free Internet!
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:48 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Yeah but you bought the advantage GUI license, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* Sean Heskett <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45 AM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>>>>
>>>>>  less than 5 seconds on my iPhone as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I doubt that 4 of my high end machines all have the same problem.
>>>>>> The interface takes too long when it first shows up.  Maybe it's because 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> gets all the information at once, maybe not.  Don't care.  I want it to 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> more smooth and faster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My phone (Droid Maxx) is one of the most recent models for Android.
>>>>>> The interface is terribly slow and clumsy on that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well if you feel a poor technology choice was the cause, that's fine,
>>>>>> but it's just flat out wrong.  I don't want to carry a big fat i7 laptop 
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> the tower when I could just simply use my phone.  It works with Ubiquiti,
>>>>>> FSK Cambium, Tranzeo, Trango, Mikrotik, etc it should only make sense the
>>>>>> one product with a clumsy interface needs fixed instead of changing my
>>>>>> devices that work with the competitors products (as well as different
>>>>>> products under their portfolio).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i'm just stating that on all of our computers i've never seen the
>>>>>>> ePMP page load slowly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maybe it's a computer problem and not a device problem, just trying
>>>>>>> to bring valid input to the discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why are you/others arguing that the speed is just fine?  This
>>>>>>>> doesn't even make sense.  There are people with slower laptops that 
>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>> with other modern devices and epmp is the only interface that loads 
>>>>>>>> slow.
>>>>>>>> There's no point in arguing peoples valid complaints.  Are you trying 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> direct the engineers attention to something else?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Three, maybe four seconds to load the initial screen and then
>>>>>>>>> two maybe three seconds to login. As I doubt a screen capture will 
>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>> when I'm RDPed in, I'll record the entire login process when I get 
>>>>>>>>> home and
>>>>>>>>> post it up on YouTube.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>  *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:26:09 PM
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Login takes forever.  The first like 10-15 seconds just load
>>>>>>>>> and load and load.  Once you're in, it's acceptable in terms of page
>>>>>>>>> rendering.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we use macbook pro's and the ePMP GUI has never been slow for
>>>>>>>>>> us.  It was UGLY, but they fixed that with version 2.0 haha.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> not sure why everyone says it's slow tho because we've never seen
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2 cents
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -sean
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Nate Burke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad.  My Field Laptop, a Lenovo
>>>>>>>>>>> S10-3t, Atom Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB 
>>>>>>>>>>> Pages in a
>>>>>>>>>>> timely manner.  We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial load, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> 20-30
>>>>>>>>>>> seconds per screen refresh/menu change.  Since I'm going to have to 
>>>>>>>>>>> go to
>>>>>>>>>>> the boss, and tell him that I need a new laptop to do any field
>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting for these new radios, what are the minimum system 
>>>>>>>>>>> specs for
>>>>>>>>>>> a machine to view the EPMP Screens?  Unless Cambium is going to get 
>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>> Web interface under control as of Yesterday.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They still swear that the GUI was all developed in house and not
>>>>>>>>>>> purchased (something I still can't believe).  I'd like to know who 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> engineers/managers are who signed off on that design.  I can only 
>>>>>>>>>>> imaging
>>>>>>>>>>> that there was a group of guys sitting around the conference table,
>>>>>>>>>>> watching the presentation on the GUI on the projector up front, all 
>>>>>>>>>>> nodding
>>>>>>>>>>> their heads in agreement, "I think this is a wonderful layout, the 
>>>>>>>>>>> field
>>>>>>>>>>> tech's won't mind waiting a couple extra minutes for the pages to 
>>>>>>>>>>> load so
>>>>>>>>>>> they can look this pretty!!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers from ALL
>>>>>>>>>>> aspects of product development out into the field.  40 seconds 
>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>>>>>>>> the page to load is fine when you're sitting in the office, but not 
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>> you have the laptop balanced on a stack of firewood in the freezing 
>>>>>>>>>>> rain
>>>>>>>>>>> trying to get to the monitoring page to see why a radio isn't 
>>>>>>>>>>> linking up.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think that every WISP on this list would be more than happy to 
>>>>>>>>>>> host an
>>>>>>>>>>> engineer for a day. Heck, even if they go into the parking lot and 
>>>>>>>>>>> assemble
>>>>>>>>>>> it on the tailgate of someone's Pickup, they'll get some idea of 
>>>>>>>>>>> what we
>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a feeling that if all steps of the Dev process took a
>>>>>>>>>>> week in the field, We'd have a radio that had a GUI that responded
>>>>>>>>>>> instantly on any device, and radios that assembled and mounted (and
>>>>>>>>>>> unmounted) with 1 gloved hand.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> </rant>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nate
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