Everyone who isn't no one =P

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Who's everyone?
>
> Everyone uses Chrome nowadays.
>
>
>  Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Example:  Powercode mostly loads and then seems to hang for quite awhile
>> on Firefox, but loads fast on Chrome.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> I've never used EPMP but I have noticed some interfaces lag on one
>>> browser and not on another.  What browser is everyone using when they see
>>> lag?  What browser are those of you who aren't seeing lag using?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Good job of merging 2 threads!  You win one free Internet!
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:48 PM
>>>>  *To:* [email protected]
>>>>  *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>>>
>>>>   Yeah but you bought the advantage GUI license, right?
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Sean Heskett <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45 AM
>>>>  *To:* [email protected]
>>>>  *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>>>
>>>>  less than 5 seconds on my iPhone as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I doubt that 4 of my high end machines all have the same problem.  The
>>>>> interface takes too long when it first shows up.  Maybe it's because it
>>>>> gets all the information at once, maybe not.  Don't care.  I want it to be
>>>>> more smooth and faster.
>>>>>
>>>>> My phone (Droid Maxx) is one of the most recent models for Android.
>>>>> The interface is terribly slow and clumsy on that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well if you feel a poor technology choice was the cause, that's fine,
>>>>> but it's just flat out wrong.  I don't want to carry a big fat i7 laptop 
>>>>> up
>>>>> the tower when I could just simply use my phone.  It works with Ubiquiti,
>>>>> FSK Cambium, Tranzeo, Trango, Mikrotik, etc it should only make sense the
>>>>> one product with a clumsy interface needs fixed instead of changing my
>>>>> devices that work with the competitors products (as well as different
>>>>> products under their portfolio).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> i'm just stating that on all of our computers i've never seen the
>>>>>> ePMP page load slowly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe it's a computer problem and not a device problem, just trying
>>>>>> to bring valid input to the discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why are you/others arguing that the speed is just fine?  This
>>>>>>> doesn't even make sense.  There are people with slower laptops that work
>>>>>>> with other modern devices and epmp is the only interface that loads 
>>>>>>> slow.
>>>>>>> There's no point in arguing peoples valid complaints.  Are you trying to
>>>>>>> direct the engineers attention to something else?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Three, maybe four seconds to load the initial screen and then two
>>>>>>>> maybe three seconds to login. As I doubt a screen capture will work 
>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> I'm RDPed in, I'll record the entire login process when I get home and 
>>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>>> it up on YouTube.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>  *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:26:09 PM
>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Login takes forever.  The first like 10-15 seconds just load
>>>>>>>> and load and load.  Once you're in, it's acceptable in terms of page
>>>>>>>> rendering.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> we use macbook pro's and the ePMP GUI has never been slow for us.
>>>>>>>>> It was UGLY, but they fixed that with version 2.0 haha.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not sure why everyone says it's slow tho because we've never seen
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2 cents
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -sean
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Nate Burke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad.  My Field Laptop, a Lenovo
>>>>>>>>>> S10-3t, Atom Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB 
>>>>>>>>>> Pages in a
>>>>>>>>>> timely manner.  We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial load, and 
>>>>>>>>>> 20-30
>>>>>>>>>> seconds per screen refresh/menu change.  Since I'm going to have to 
>>>>>>>>>> go to
>>>>>>>>>> the boss, and tell him that I need a new laptop to do any field
>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting for these new radios, what are the minimum system 
>>>>>>>>>> specs for
>>>>>>>>>> a machine to view the EPMP Screens?  Unless Cambium is going to get 
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> Web interface under control as of Yesterday.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They still swear that the GUI was all developed in house and not
>>>>>>>>>> purchased (something I still can't believe).  I'd like to know who 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> engineers/managers are who signed off on that design.  I can only 
>>>>>>>>>> imaging
>>>>>>>>>> that there was a group of guys sitting around the conference table,
>>>>>>>>>> watching the presentation on the GUI on the projector up front, all 
>>>>>>>>>> nodding
>>>>>>>>>> their heads in agreement, "I think this is a wonderful layout, the 
>>>>>>>>>> field
>>>>>>>>>> tech's won't mind waiting a couple extra minutes for the pages to 
>>>>>>>>>> load so
>>>>>>>>>> they can look this pretty!!"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers from ALL
>>>>>>>>>> aspects of product development out into the field.  40 seconds 
>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>>>>>>> the page to load is fine when you're sitting in the office, but not 
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> you have the laptop balanced on a stack of firewood in the freezing 
>>>>>>>>>> rain
>>>>>>>>>> trying to get to the monitoring page to see why a radio isn't 
>>>>>>>>>> linking up.
>>>>>>>>>> I think that every WISP on this list would be more than happy to 
>>>>>>>>>> host an
>>>>>>>>>> engineer for a day. Heck, even if they go into the parking lot and 
>>>>>>>>>> assemble
>>>>>>>>>> it on the tailgate of someone's Pickup, they'll get some idea of 
>>>>>>>>>> what we
>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a feeling that if all steps of the Dev process took a week
>>>>>>>>>> in the field, We'd have a radio that had a GUI that responded 
>>>>>>>>>> instantly on
>>>>>>>>>> any device, and radios that assembled and mounted (and unmounted) 
>>>>>>>>>> with 1
>>>>>>>>>> gloved hand.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> </rant>
>>>>>>>>>> Nate
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