Some states have a THC blood limit.  I guess you have to have a blood test.

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 1:09 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Random drug Testing for employee/Installer ?

Do you drink after work? It's legal, right?

What if that stayed in your blood for 14+ days?

If an employee wants to enjoy his time in a legal manner outside of work, he's 
on his own time - that's his own damn business, "cuz 'Merica".

I don't have to support him showing up to work drunk though, that's a liability 
to himself and others.

This is something scientists have been working on a long time (testing for 
marijuana "intoxication"), and they haven't come up with anything yet. Not that 
they wont, I'm just saying it's not like they just started trying to figure out 
a solution to this... but it's been decades with no results.

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Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 03/11/2015 11:03 AM, That One Guy wrote:

  he will also get a dui conviction in many states.  
  There are people who have been terminated for failing drug screens when 
visiting other countries where the laws are different.
  It will be a simple matter in locales where its still illegal, just as it is 
with that.

  But like chucks no nicotine policy, which is great, the employer should 
always be able to mandate the staff they have.

  The whole pot battle is a joke, framing it as medicine, there are very few 
proven conditions where it is any more beneficial than controlled substances 
already available on the market. Call it what it is, seeking the end of 
prohibition of a recreational drug. (rant)

  We have the top scientists and researchers at our disposal. As it progresses 
to a more likely state in the near future of pure legalization, they will find 
a method for testing for intoxication similar to BAC with the booze.

  On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

    This is going to get interest over the next couple of years when it comes 
to marijuana.

    Many places are looking to legalize for recreational use.

    The problem is testing and liability. Lots of systems will have to change.

    For instance, there is currently no good known method to tell if someone is 
under the influence of marijuana other than a field sobriety test, and even 
those can be argued in court (if my understanding of this is correct, I just 
talked to a local detective yesterday while getting fingerprinted for a state 
security clearance).

    Billy Bob comes into work in Anchorage, AK or Denver, CO. Goes through his 
day, everything is fine. He sits in is van at a stop light waiting for the 
light to turn green, and BAM... rear end collision from some a-hole behind him. 
Many company policies will force him to go get drug tested. He fails the test 
for marijuana, yet it is legal in the state and there was no way to tell if he 
was under the influence at the time of the incident.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 03/11/2015 09:47 AM, Tushar Patel wrote:

      Ok, will look for local company.



      Tushar



      From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
      Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:37 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Random drug Testing for employee/Installer ?



      If you are asking about the mechanics of having the testing done, you 
hire a local company that specializes in the whole thing.  They choose who 
needs to come in and they do the tests.  All you have to do is to tell the 
employee when and were to report.  And yeah, there is clean pee out on the 
market that even comes with its own little heater packet to get it up to body 
temp.  I had no idea until we found some on our company vehicles.  



      I also didn’t know until just now that hair sample testing was available. 
 Be good to tell them all you do hair sample testing even if you don’t.  I do 
regret firing one kid that took a hit off of a joint at his birthday party.  I 
really don’t think he was a druggie but I wrote the manual, I made the policy, 
and I let him go when he pissed dirty.  So think this through carefully before 
you pull the trigger.  If I had to do it again, I would make an exception for 
pot.  (Not tobacco though...)



      From: Tushar Patel 

      Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:01 AM

      To: [email protected] 

      Subject: [AFMUG] Random drug Testing for employee/Installer ?



      Hi,



      How do one go about implementing random drug testing for 
installer/employee?



      How many people do this?



      Thanks,

      Tushar







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