Its not been legal in the US there was nothing more than curiosity pushing
an intoxication level

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Do you drink after work? It's legal, right?
>
> What if that stayed in your blood for 14+ days?
>
> If an employee wants to enjoy his time in a legal manner outside of work,
> he's on his own time - that's his own damn business, "cuz 'Merica".
>
> I don't have to support him showing up to work drunk though, that's a
> liability to himself and others.
>
> This is something scientists have been working on a long time (testing for
> marijuana "intoxication"), and they haven't come up with anything yet. Not
> that they wont, I'm just saying it's not like they just started trying to
> figure out a solution to this... but it's been decades with no results.
>
> --
> Josh Reynolds
> CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com
>
> On 03/11/2015 11:03 AM, That One Guy wrote:
>
> he will also get a dui conviction in many states.
> There are people who have been terminated for failing drug screens when
> visiting other countries where the laws are different.
> It will be a simple matter in locales where its still illegal, just as it
> is with that.
>
>  But like chucks no nicotine policy, which is great, the employer should
> always be able to mandate the staff they have.
>
>  The whole pot battle is a joke, framing it as medicine, there are very
> few proven conditions where it is any more beneficial than controlled
> substances already available on the market. Call it what it is, seeking the
> end of prohibition of a recreational drug. (rant)
>
>  We have the top scientists and researchers at our disposal. As it
> progresses to a more likely state in the near future of pure legalization,
> they will find a method for testing for intoxication similar to BAC with
> the booze.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>  This is going to get interest over the next couple of years when it
>> comes to marijuana.
>>
>> Many places are looking to legalize for recreational use.
>>
>> The problem is testing and liability. Lots of systems will have to change.
>>
>> For instance, there is currently no good known method to tell if someone
>> is under the influence of marijuana other than a field sobriety test, and
>> even those can be argued in court (if my understanding of this is correct,
>> I just talked to a local detective yesterday while getting fingerprinted
>> for a state security clearance).
>>
>> Billy Bob comes into work in Anchorage, AK or Denver, CO. Goes through
>> his day, everything is fine. He sits in is van at a stop light waiting for
>> the light to turn green, and BAM... rear end collision from some a-hole
>> behind him. Many company policies will force him to go get drug tested. He
>> fails the test for marijuana, yet it is legal in the state and there was no
>> way to tell if he was under the influence at the time of the incident.
>>
>> --
>> Josh Reynolds
>> CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com
>>
>>  On 03/11/2015 09:47 AM, Tushar Patel wrote:
>>
>>  Ok, will look for local company.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tushar
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:37 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Random drug Testing for employee/Installer ?
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are asking about the mechanics of having the testing done, you
>> hire a local company that specializes in the whole thing.  They choose who
>> needs to come in and they do the tests.  All you have to do is to tell the
>> employee when and were to report.  And yeah, there is clean pee out on the
>> market that even comes with its own little heater packet to get it up to
>> body temp.  I had no idea until we found some on our company vehicles.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also didn’t know until just now that hair sample testing was
>> available.  Be good to tell them all you do hair sample testing even if you
>> don’t.  I do regret firing one kid that took a hit off of a joint at his
>> birthday party.  I really don’t think he was a druggie but I wrote the
>> manual, I made the policy, and I let him go when he pissed dirty.  So think
>> this through carefully before you pull the trigger.  If I had to do it
>> again, I would make an exception for pot.  (Not tobacco though...)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Tushar Patel <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:01 AM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Random drug Testing for employee/Installer ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> How do one go about implementing random drug testing for
>> installer/employee?
>>
>>
>>
>> How many people do this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tushar
>>
>>
>>
>
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