Do you drink after work? It's legal, right?
What if that stayed in your blood for 14+ days?
If an employee wants to enjoy his time in a legal manner outside of
work, he's on his own time - that's his own damn business, "cuz 'Merica".
I don't have to support him showing up to work drunk though, that's a
liability to himself and others.
This is something scientists have been working on a long time (testing
for marijuana "intoxication"), and they haven't come up with anything
yet. Not that they wont, I'm just saying it's not like they just started
trying to figure out a solution to this... but it's been decades with no
results.
--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 03/11/2015 11:03 AM, That One Guy wrote:
he will also get a dui conviction in many states.
There are people who have been terminated for failing drug screens
when visiting other countries where the laws are different.
It will be a simple matter in locales where its still illegal, just as
it is with that.
But like chucks no nicotine policy, which is great, the employer
should always be able to mandate the staff they have.
The whole pot battle is a joke, framing it as medicine, there are very
few proven conditions where it is any more beneficial than controlled
substances already available on the market. Call it what it is,
seeking the end of prohibition of a recreational drug. (rant)
We have the top scientists and researchers at our disposal. As it
progresses to a more likely state in the near future of pure
legalization, they will find a method for testing for intoxication
similar to BAC with the booze.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This is going to get interest over the next couple of years when
it comes to marijuana.
Many places are looking to legalize for recreational use.
The problem is testing and liability. Lots of systems will have to
change.
For instance, there is currently no good known method to tell if
someone is under the influence of marijuana other than a field
sobriety test, and even those can be argued in court (if my
understanding of this is correct, I just talked to a local
detective yesterday while getting fingerprinted for a state
security clearance).
Billy Bob comes into work in Anchorage, AK or Denver, CO. Goes
through his day, everything is fine. He sits in is van at a stop
light waiting for the light to turn green, and BAM... rear end
collision from some a-hole behind him. Many company policies will
force him to go get drug tested. He fails the test for marijuana,
yet it is legal in the state and there was no way to tell if he
was under the influence at the time of the incident.
--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 03/11/2015 09:47 AM, Tushar Patel wrote:
Ok, will look for local company.
Tushar
*From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:37 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Random drug Testing for employee/Installer ?
If you are asking about the mechanics of having the testing done,
you hire a local company that specializes in the whole thing.
They choose who needs to come in and they do the tests. All you
have to do is to tell the employee when and were to report. And
yeah, there is clean pee out on the market that even comes with
its own little heater packet to get it up to body temp. I had no
idea until we found some on our company vehicles.
I also didn’t know until just now that hair sample testing was
available. Be good to tell them all you do hair sample testing
even if you don’t. I do regret firing one kid that took a hit
off of a joint at his birthday party. I really don’t think he
was a druggie but I wrote the manual, I made the policy, and I
let him go when he pissed dirty. So think this through carefully
before you pull the trigger. If I had to do it again, I would
make an exception for pot. (Not tobacco though...)
*From:*Tushar Patel <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:01 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*[AFMUG] Random drug Testing for employee/Installer ?
Hi,
How do one go about implementing random drug testing for
installer/employee?
How many people do this?
Thanks,
Tushar
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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
