True... I forgot about LTE... On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
> It won't scale as well as LTE. If you think otherwise, point me to any > network out there running 20M+ customers on Canopy. ;-) > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> > *To: *"af" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:20:46 AM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite - Now Available! > > I have to agree, it's perfectly possible to build a good network with just > about any gear out there, but you do need to know what you're doing and > know the limits of what that gear can do... and not having sync makes > frequency planning extremely challenging after awhile. > > I don't think there's really any question that Canopy is going to scale > better than anything else that's out there right now, but in our area it's > pretty rare that we actually can get more than 30ish customers on a sector > due to natural limitations... which makes wifi based gear a lot more > practical. > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Must have WISPs that would have failed no matter what gear they used. My >> network touches 12 other WISPs. I've been running for over 10 years. I've >> largely ran Mikrotik and Ubiquiti, moving to ePMP, then moving to AC sync >> Bitlomat and\or Mimosa when they're ready. >> >> Almost five years ago I bought a network that ran Canopy because that's >> the thing to do! Yeah, he had multiple towers in the same band within 5 >> miles that didn't sync with each other. Almost every AP was an omni in >> suburban Chicago. Had no idea how to do any sort of networking. I've since >> pulled all of that crap and replaced it with UBNT or ePMP sectors. >> >> A few years ago an out of area WISP bought out an area WISP that was >> Canopy based. The purchaser had been helping the purchasee for several >> months (maybe a couple years?) because they didn't know what they were >> doing. >> >> There is at least one other WISP in the area that's been going at least >> as long as I have... 802.11 based. An area WISP aggregator... 802.11 >> based from what I've seen. >> >> What gear you use has less to do with your success than properly >> engineering a network. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Craig Schmaderer" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Thursday, March 19, 2015 7:22:45 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite - Now Available! >> >> I agree with Kurt. EPMP and ubnt have a place and work ok but I've been >> doing this for 12 years and the only equipment that works for voip, vpn, >> gaming, reliability, and just dam works is cambium 100 to 450. And as for >> mimosa and AC hardware, i hope they have a great product but unless it can >> do what 450 can do for reliable links it has no place in my network. Every >> ubnt wisp that has popped up in my service area has either quit or pulled >> out of my area. >> >> >> >> On Mar 18, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> nope, just the cheap connectorized SM's >> >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> >> Wavelinc Communications >> >> P.O. Box 126 >> >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> >> http://www.wavelinc.com >> >> tel. 419-562-6405 >> >> fax. 419-617-0110 >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Josh Luthman < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> GPS APs? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Mar 18, 2015 10:39 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> integrated subscriber models 2.4 and 5ghz, have a few of the >>>> connectorized for AP's >>>> >>>> >>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>> >>>> Wavelinc Communications >>>> >>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>> >>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>> >>>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>>> >>>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>>> >>>> fax. 419-617-0110 >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What hardware? >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> On Mar 18, 2015 9:15 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> prob 50 cents on the dollar >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>> Wavelinc Communications >>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>>>>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>>>>> fax. 419-617-0110 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 18, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How much do you want for the ePMP? ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> >>>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 18, 2015 11:12:28 AM >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite - Now Available! >>>>>> >>>>>> Matt, >>>>>> >>>>>> That pricing lines up with what I was told by Cambium at the shows. >>>>>> I am going to assume that since its MSRP that WISPS can buy at 80% of >>>>>> that >>>>>> price level so then we are looking at $1160.00 for the lite AP and then >>>>>> the >>>>>> upgrade key so that is right there with what a full-AP would have cost so >>>>>> really no price disadvantage to start out with the lite-AP. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is wonderfull news! I am planning on ripping out a bunch of >>>>>> EPMP and putting 450 in its place. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>> >>>>>> Wavelinc Communications >>>>>> >>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>> >>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>>>>> >>>>>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>>>>> >>>>>> fax. 419-617-0110 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I was just told $1449 MSRP, and $1449 MSRP to upgrade to a full AP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Caleb Knauer < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So the only difference is the SU count? If so, that's quite >>>>>>>> refreshing. Well, let's see the price first. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Matt Mangriotis >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> > Not sure if anyone has seen this yet, but here you go! >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/pressreleases/2015/03/18/cambium-networks-announces-pmp-450-access-point-lite-model >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Read about the applications that I think you might be able to use >>>>>>>> one of >>>>>>>> > these (of course, you guys know better than me… so if I messed up >>>>>>>> on any of >>>>>>>> > these, or you have any to add, let me know!) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > See your resellers to order them. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Matt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >> > >
