*nods* Matt was responding to my post where I stated my migration
path. I would look at Telrad or Runcom if I were looking for NLOS gear.
I haven't had any of the "scale issues" you all say are so terrible,
at least ones that haven't been addressed with my latest platform move
(ePMP) (sync). Sectors and sync solve most of the "scale" issues.
People complain about can't put more than 30 subs on an AP. Great! I
don't want more than 30 or so subs on an AP anyway. That's easier to
say when you're not paying $3k for them.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:29:36 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite - Now Available!
Do you have any LTE in your network, or PMP450 for that matter? I
thought you went the ePMP route.
*From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:15 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite - Now Available!
It won't scale as well as LTE. If you think otherwise, point me to any
network out there running 20M+ customers on Canopy. ;-)
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]>
*To: *"af" <[email protected]>
*Sent: *Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:20:46 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite - Now Available!
I have to agree, it's perfectly possible to build a good network with
just about any gear out there, but you do need to know what you're
doing and know the limits of what that gear can do... and not having
sync makes frequency planning extremely challenging after awhile.
I don't think there's really any question that Canopy is going to
scale better than anything else that's out there right now, but in our
area it's pretty rare that we actually can get more than 30ish
customers on a sector due to natural limitations... which makes wifi
based gear a lot more practical.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Must have WISPs that would have failed no matter what gear they
used. My network touches 12 other WISPs. I've been running for
over 10 years. I've largely ran Mikrotik and Ubiquiti, moving to
ePMP, then moving to AC sync Bitlomat and\or Mimosa when they're
ready.
Almost five years ago I bought a network that ran Canopy because
that's the thing to do! Yeah, he had multiple towers in the same
band within 5 miles that didn't sync with each other. Almost every
AP was an omni in suburban Chicago. Had no idea how to do any sort
of networking. I've since pulled all of that crap and replaced it
with UBNT or ePMP sectors.
A few years ago an out of area WISP bought out an area WISP that
was Canopy based. The purchaser had been helping the purchasee for
several months (maybe a couple years?) because they didn't know
what they were doing.
There is at least one other WISP in the area that's been going at
least as long as I have... 802.11 based. An area WISP
aggregator... 802.11 based from what I've seen.
What gear you use has less to do with your success than properly
engineering a network.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Craig Schmaderer" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Thursday, March 19, 2015 7:22:45 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite - Now Available!
I agree with Kurt. EPMP and ubnt have a place and work ok but
I've been doing this for 12 years and the only equipment that
works for voip, vpn, gaming, reliability, and just dam works is
cambium 100 to 450. And as for mimosa and AC hardware, i hope
they have a great product but unless it can do what 450 can do for
reliable links it has no place in my network. Every ubnt wisp
that has popped up in my service area has either quit or pulled
out of my area.
On Mar 18, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
nope, just the cheap connectorized SM's
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com <http://www.wavelinc.com/>
tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>
fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Josh Luthman
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
GPS APs?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 18, 2015 10:39 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
integrated subscriber models 2.4 and 5ghz, have a few
of the connectorized for AP's
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com <http://www.wavelinc.com/>
tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>
fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Josh Luthman
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
What hardware?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 18, 2015 9:15 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
prob 50 cents on the dollar
Sent from my iPhone
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>
fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>
On Mar 18, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
How much do you want for the ePMP? ;-)
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Kurt Fankhauser"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Wednesday, March 18, 2015 11:12:28 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite -
Now Available!
Matt,
That pricing lines up with what I was told
by Cambium at the shows. I am going to
assume that since its MSRP that WISPS can
buy at 80% of that price level so then we
are looking at $1160.00 for the lite AP
and then the upgrade key so that is right
there with what a full-AP would have cost
so really no price disadvantage to start
out with the lite-AP.
This is wonderfull news! I am planning on
ripping out a bunch of EPMP and putting
450 in its place.
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
<http://www.wavelinc.com/>
tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>
fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Mathew
Howard <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I was just told $1449 MSRP, and $1449
MSRP to upgrade to a full AP.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:36 AM,
Caleb Knauer <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So the only difference is the SU
count? If so, that's quite
refreshing. Well, let's see the
price first.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:17 AM,
Matt Mangriotis
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
> Not sure if anyone has seen this
yet, but here you go!
>
>
>
>
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/pressreleases/2015/03/18/cambium-networks-announces-pmp-450-access-point-lite-model
>
>
>
> Read about the applications that
I think you might be able to use
one of
> these (of course, you guys know
better than me… so if I messed up
on any of
> these, or you have any to add,
let me know!)
>
>
>
> http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog
>
>
>
> See your resellers to order them.
>
>
>
> Matt
