Billy Mays?
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote: > If you have 20 million subscribers your no longer a WISP. Your something > else.... And OH NO! You said that three letter word that starts with an L > so this thread is probably going to get hi-jacked now by someone... > > > Kurt Fankhauser > > Wavelinc Communications > > P.O. Box 126 > > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > > http://www.wavelinc.com > > tel. 419-562-6405 > > fax. 419-617-0110 > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It won't scale as well as LTE. If you think otherwise, point me to any >> network out there running 20M+ customers on Canopy. ;-) >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"af" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:20:46 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite - Now Available! >> >> I have to agree, it's perfectly possible to build a good network with >> just about any gear out there, but you do need to know what you're doing >> and know the limits of what that gear can do... and not having sync makes >> frequency planning extremely challenging after awhile. >> >> I don't think there's really any question that Canopy is going to scale >> better than anything else that's out there right now, but in our area it's >> pretty rare that we actually can get more than 30ish customers on a sector >> due to natural limitations... which makes wifi based gear a lot more >> practical. >> >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Must have WISPs that would have failed no matter what gear they used. My >>> network touches 12 other WISPs. I've been running for over 10 years. I've >>> largely ran Mikrotik and Ubiquiti, moving to ePMP, then moving to AC sync >>> Bitlomat and\or Mimosa when they're ready. >>> >>> Almost five years ago I bought a network that ran Canopy because that's >>> the thing to do! Yeah, he had multiple towers in the same band within 5 >>> miles that didn't sync with each other. Almost every AP was an omni in >>> suburban Chicago. Had no idea how to do any sort of networking. I've since >>> pulled all of that crap and replaced it with UBNT or ePMP sectors. >>> >>> A few years ago an out of area WISP bought out an area WISP that was >>> Canopy based. The purchaser had been helping the purchasee for several >>> months (maybe a couple years?) because they didn't know what they were >>> doing. >>> >>> There is at least one other WISP in the area that's been going at least >>> as long as I have... 802.11 based. An area WISP aggregator... 802.11 >>> based from what I've seen. >>> >>> What gear you use has less to do with your success than properly >>> engineering a network. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Craig Schmaderer" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 19, 2015 7:22:45 AM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite - Now Available! >>> >>> I agree with Kurt. EPMP and ubnt have a place and work ok but I've been >>> doing this for 12 years and the only equipment that works for voip, vpn, >>> gaming, reliability, and just dam works is cambium 100 to 450. And as for >>> mimosa and AC hardware, i hope they have a great product but unless it can >>> do what 450 can do for reliable links it has no place in my network. Every >>> ubnt wisp that has popped up in my service area has either quit or pulled >>> out of my area. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 18, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> nope, just the cheap connectorized SM's >>> >>> >>> Kurt Fankhauser >>> >>> Wavelinc Communications >>> >>> P.O. Box 126 >>> >>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>> >>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>> >>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>> >>> fax. 419-617-0110 >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> GPS APs? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Mar 18, 2015 10:39 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> integrated subscriber models 2.4 and 5ghz, have a few of the >>>>> connectorized for AP's >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>> >>>>> Wavelinc Communications >>>>> >>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>> >>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>> >>>>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>>>> >>>>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>>>> >>>>> fax. 419-617-0110 >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What hardware? >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> On Mar 18, 2015 9:15 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> prob 50 cents on the dollar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>> Wavelinc Communications >>>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>>>>>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>>>>>> fax. 419-617-0110 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How much do you want for the ePMP? ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 18, 2015 11:12:28 AM >>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 AP Lite - Now Available! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matt, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That pricing lines up with what I was told by Cambium at the >>>>>>> shows. I am going to assume that since its MSRP that WISPS can buy at >>>>>>> 80% >>>>>>> of that price level so then we are looking at $1160.00 for the lite AP >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> then the upgrade key so that is right there with what a full-AP would >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> cost so really no price disadvantage to start out with the lite-AP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is wonderfull news! I am planning on ripping out a bunch of >>>>>>> EPMP and putting 450 in its place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wavelinc Communications >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> fax. 419-617-0110 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Mathew Howard < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was just told $1449 MSRP, and $1449 MSRP to upgrade to a full AP. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Caleb Knauer < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So the only difference is the SU count? If so, that's quite >>>>>>>>> refreshing. Well, let's see the price first. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Matt Mangriotis >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Not sure if anyone has seen this yet, but here you go! >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/pressreleases/2015/03/18/cambium-networks-announces-pmp-450-access-point-lite-model >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Read about the applications that I think you might be able to >>>>>>>>> use one of >>>>>>>>> > these (of course, you guys know better than me… so if I messed >>>>>>>>> up on any of >>>>>>>>> > these, or you have any to add, let me know!) >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > See your resellers to order them. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Matt >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
