Why not make the jumper changeable in a web UI? then you don't have to worry about a new plastic mold for the case?
— Sent from Mailbox On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > In progress.... :) > I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to > work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect > of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. > But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so > to speak: > At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of > jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the > syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers > accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in > the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, > this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case > closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the > circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. > Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. > This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 > ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which > means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other > (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors > sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the > connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), > effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in > the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U > shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the > second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one > ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of > flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the > enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which > requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the > distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material > we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid > enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to > be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 > port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this > iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port > injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome > orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to > that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future > date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. > On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you > shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both > into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to > work with gigabit on the syncinjector. > -forrest > On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >> So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE >> injectors... >> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Yup screwed there :( >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 & 4/5 positive and 3/6 & 7/8 >>>> negative. >>>> >>>> Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 >>>> stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what >>>> that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since >>>> they use power on all four pairs. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look >>>>> tomorrow. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) < >>>>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No pinout!? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the >>>>>> Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) < >>>>>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or >>>>>>> pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. >>>>>>> Obviously the ePMP works. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) < >>>>>>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, >>>>>>>> 7 & 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs >>>>>>>> for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 & 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but >>>>>>>> I'm not >>>>>>>> sure about crossed blues and browns. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up >>>>>>>> or down. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What >>>>>>>>> about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> now on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is it possible to run the AF5x? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>
