Tycon makes these little dongles that flip the brown/blues which should work in the meantime. Also, I believe the Netonix switches can do all three of those at GigE (where oh where is the DC version).
Josh On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would be > glorious. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > >> In progress.... :) >> >> I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going >> to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side >> effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving >> them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the >> curtain so to speak: >> >> At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of >> jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the >> syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers >> accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in >> the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, >> this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case >> closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the >> circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. >> >> Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port >> injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each >> with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, >> which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each >> other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the >> connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down >> with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), >> effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in >> the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U >> shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the >> second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one >> ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of >> flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the >> enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which >> requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the >> distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material >> we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid >> enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to >> be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 >> port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this >> iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port >> injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome >> orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to >> that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future >> date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. >> >> On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you >> shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both >> into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to >> work with gigabit on the syncinjector. >> >> -forrest >> On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE >>> injectors... >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yup screwed there :( >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 & 4/5 positive and 3/6 & >>>>> 7/8 negative. >>>>> >>>>> Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the >>>>> 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't >>>>> know >>>>> what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, >>>>> since they use power on all four pairs. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look >>>>>> tomorrow. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) < >>>>>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> No pinout!? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the >>>>>>> Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) >>>>>>> <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or >>>>>>>> pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. >>>>>>>> Obviously the ePMP works. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) >>>>>>>> <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, >>>>>>>>> 5, 7 & 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 >>>>>>>>> pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 & 8, it may be possible, but... >>>>>>>>> you'd have >>>>>>>>> to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a >>>>>>>>> 568B >>>>>>>>> to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, >>>>>>>>> but I'm >>>>>>>>> not sure about crossed blues and browns. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs >>>>>>>>> up or down. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? >>>>>>>>>> What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all >>>>>>>>>> sites >>>>>>>>>> from now on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to run the AF5x? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
