It's pretty simple why this isn't in the cards. Today there's a single switching element per port. To make this switchable there would need to be eight per port.. One for positive and one for negative for each pair. Each switching element adds about two dollars to the cost of the product when it's all done. So for a twelve port box you end up adding 84 switching elements, and increasing the price of the product by around $160 or so. This would put the final product price in the realm of too expensive for most.
Not to mention that those added circuit elements need to fit somewhere so you're back to a larger enclosure. The enclosure we use is machined, not molded, so a few holes are almost free, same for a few jumpers. On Apr 17, 2015 5:14 AM, "Work" <[email protected]> wrote: > Why not make the jumper changeable in a web UI? then you don't have to > worry about a new plastic mold for the case? > > > — > Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> In progress.... :) >> >> I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going >> to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side >> effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving >> them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the >> curtain so to speak: >> >> At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of >> jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the >> syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers >> accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in >> the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, >> this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case >> closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the >> circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. >> >> Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port >> injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each >> with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, >> which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each >> other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the >> connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down >> with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), >> effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in >> the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U >> shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the >> second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one >> ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of >> flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the >> enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which >> requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the >> distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material >> we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid >> enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to >> be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 >> port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this >> iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port >> injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome >> orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to >> that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future >> date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. >> >> On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you >> shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both >> into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to >> work with gigabit on the syncinjector. >> >> -forrest >> On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE >>> injectors... >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yup screwed there :( >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 & 4/5 positive and 3/6 & >>>>> 7/8 negative. >>>>> >>>>> Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the >>>>> 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't >>>>> know >>>>> what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, >>>>> since they use power on all four pairs. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look >>>>>> tomorrow. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> No pinout!? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the >>>>>>> Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or >>>>>>>> pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. >>>>>>>> Obviously the ePMP works. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, >>>>>>>>> 5, 7 & 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 >>>>>>>>> pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 & 8, it may be possible, but... >>>>>>>>> you'd have >>>>>>>>> to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a >>>>>>>>> 568B >>>>>>>>> to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, >>>>>>>>> but I'm >>>>>>>>> not sure about crossed blues and browns. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs >>>>>>>>> up or down. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? >>>>>>>>>> What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all >>>>>>>>>> sites >>>>>>>>>> from now on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to run the AF5x? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
