No, I'm suggesting you locate a Mikrotik box in the datacenter where you can 
get the BGP connection(s). Put a Mikrotik (or more) on the ends of the 
broadband fiber connections. VPN from them back to the MT at the datacenter. 
Your BGP stays at the datacenter, you use the VPNs as internal connectivity to 
the rest of the network. 



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From: "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 4:13:09 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream 


I can't comprehend that, are you offering to do hosted bonding with BGP for me 
using a mikrotik? 


On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 




April 18, 2015 8:44 AM 

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I'm assuming a Mikrotik at a datacenter where you do BGP with a tunnel to the 
destination router's IPs per upstream port. OSPF magic over the different 
tunnels. 
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From: "TJ Trout" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:23:09 AM 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream 


Which one? 
On Apr 18, 2015 9:07 PM, "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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My proposal still stands. 




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From: "TJ Trout" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 8:23:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream 


I'm not talking about any bgp stuff guys, I'm talking about the ability to bond 
several non bgp lines into one virtual pipe that is bgp capable (i.e. with a 
mikrotik in a data center who can give a bgp session) not talking about bonding 
multiple bgp capable lines, etc 
On Apr 18, 2015 4:54 PM, "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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No community support, no business. 

http://www.onesc.net/communities/ 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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From: "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 6:42:08 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream 



I have used communities a lot... The problem is non-standard support and no 
support at all from some of the transit providers… 



From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:35 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream 


Must not have used communities much? You can exert a lot of control with them. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 







From: "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 2:32:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream 
Yeah the inbound part I’m really skeptical over… 



From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 9:43 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream 


Through communities, local prefs, etc. and a few upstreams, you can shape your 
traffic quite a bit. The InterNAP box is the only one I'm aware of that'll do 
inbound. Noction has a box that does outbound only and they were working on 
inbound, but last I knew hadn't finished it yet. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 8:26:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream 
There’s a few of them out there.. I have yet to understand why I would want to 
buy a big expensive box (and they are NOT cheap) to influence my outbound BGP 
traffic, knowing that like humans, we can only influence inbound BGP traffic a 
very limited amount. 

From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 9:34 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream 

A few years ago some company proposed an appliance that proclaimed to manage 
bgp for multiple circuits. Don't know if the they are still around. I 
personally don't think it is a good investment as so much of the bgp equation 
depends on the carrier. 

On Apr 17, 2015 2:47 PM, "TJ Trout" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Anyone know of a service that can take several small business fiber circuits 
that don't support bgp and bond them and provide a bgp session ? 





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