Am I the only one reading this discussion and shaking my head..... The comparison of these two is absurd and ridiculous... it reminds me of the discussion of this exact nature when Ubiquiti M products were first available in the market place and folks had conversation very similar Ubiquiti M (802.11n) vs Canopy (802.11 b/g) products ?
Ubiquiti AC PTMP is one of the first 802.11ac PTMP system in the market place... A better comparison would be with PTMP systems of the same class... (e.g. Mimosa PTMP, expected later this year, and I would not be surprised at all if Cambium also has a 802.11ac PTMP product in their pipeline.).... Didn't Trango also announce / have a shipping PTMP system based on 802.11ac ? Anyone has info on that ? :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> > To: "af" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:23:58 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC > Which is where ePMP comes in. you get reasonable cost and sync... which makes > good spectrum management a lot easier. > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Jeremy < [email protected] > wrote: > > Perhaps, but at 1000x the cost. > > > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Adam Moffett < [email protected] > > > wrote: > > > > I'd suggest with careful spectrum management, proper loading, AND better > > > equipment you'd still be better off. > > > > > > > I have 22 towers with over a hundred UBNT APs in a valley 11 miles > > > > wide, > > > > built over the top of a synced Canopy network. I take about 10 > > > > customers > > > > a > > > > week off of their 450 platform and we are constantly told that the > > > > difference is night and day better on our network. Careful spectrum > > > > management and proper AP loading wins over sync every time. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Mathew Howard < [email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > No, we can't always control that, but if I can at least control it > > > > > sometimes, > > > > > I'll take it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you have the opinion you can control that, constantly, on > > > > > > unlicensed > > > > > > spectrum? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *smirk* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Reynolds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/15/2015 05:46 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's a very good point, regardless of what some customers seem > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > think, > > > > > > > mbps really isn't the most important thing... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Adam Moffett < > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've always considered mbps to be among the least important > > > > > > > > concerns > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > PTMP, > > > > > > > > well below packet loss, jitter, QoS features, manageability, > > > > > > > > consistency, > > > > > > > > and reliability. Which is why I'm not super keen on *any* of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > wifi > > > > > > > > stuff. > > > > > > > > This seems is like an argument about whether a Pinto is better > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > Fiesta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > </smug> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One could say "I can sync but I can only get 60 Mbps per sub" > > > > > > > > > (*) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another person could say "I can't sync but I can get 200+ > > > > > > > > > Mbps > > > > > > > > > per > > > > > > > > > sub" > > > > > > > > > (*) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (*) under the right conditions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your market and deployment strats will dictate which is more > > > > > > > > > important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Reynolds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/15/2015 04:56 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But no sync. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Peter > > > > > > > > > > Kranz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 3:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AC blows doors on ePMP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Kranz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.UnwiredLtd.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile: 510-207-0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Jason > > > > > > > > > > McKemie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 11:21 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know this isn't an apples to apples comparison, but what > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > other's > > > > > > > > > > thoughts on these two products? I'm looking at 5GHz, and I > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > AC > > > > > > > > > > gear > > > > > > > > > > doesn't have the lower 5GHz bands - hopefully they will in > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > near > > > > > > > > > > future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
