When it costs $1200/year per antenna on a tower, I would argue that the cost of the equipment is not the issue.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 5/15/2015 7:22 PM, Jeremy wrote:
Perhaps, but at 1000x the cost.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I'd suggest with careful spectrum management, proper loading, AND
    better equipment you'd still be better off.

    I have 22 towers with over a hundred UBNT APs in a valley 11
    miles wide, built over the top of a synced Canopy network.  I
    take about 10 customers a week off of their 450 platform and we
    are constantly told that the difference is night and day better
    on our network.  Careful spectrum management and proper AP
    loading wins over sync every time.

    On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Mathew Howard
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        No, we can't always control that, but if I can at least
        control it sometimes, I'll take it.

        On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Josh Reynolds
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            And you have the opinion you can control that,
            constantly, on unlicensed spectrum?

            *smirk*

            Josh Reynolds
            CIO, SPITwSPOTS
            www.spitwspots.com  <http://www.spitwspots.com>

            On 05/15/2015 05:46 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
            That's a very good point, regardless of what some
            customers seem to think, mbps really isn't the most
            important thing...

            On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Adam Moffett
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I've always considered mbps to be among the least
                important concerns on PTMP, well below packet loss,
                jitter, QoS features, manageability, consistency,
                and reliability. Which is why I'm not super keen on
                *any* of the wifi stuff.  This seems is like an
                argument about whether a Pinto is better than a Fiesta.
                </smug>

                One could say "I can sync but I can only get 60
                Mbps per sub" (*)

                Another person could say "I can't sync but I can
                get 200+ Mbps per sub" (*)

                (*) under the right conditions

                Your market and deployment strats will dictate
                which is more important.
                Josh Reynolds
                CIO, SPITwSPOTS
                www.spitwspots.com  <http://www.spitwspots.com>
                On 05/15/2015 04:56 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

                But no sync.

                *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
                Of *Peter Kranz
                *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 3:12 PM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC

                AC blows doors on ePMP

                *Peter Kranz
                *www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
                Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:510-868-1614%20x100>
                Mobile: 510-207-0000 <tel:510-207-0000>
                [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

                *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
                Of *Jason McKemie
                *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 11:21 AM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC

                I know this isn't an apples to apples comparison,
                but what are other's thoughts on these two
                products?  I'm looking at 5GHz, and I know the AC
                gear doesn't have the lower 5GHz bands - hopefully
                they will in the near future.

                -Jason










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