We use a lot of mikrotik and suffer from their unwilling to invest in wireless development. They make their .ac cards barely working but they don't perform as nv2 does not work well. It is boring to get calls from customers with speed test showing 6mbit while connected to a lightly used .ac sector with good signal. They should have deep pockets for R&D but they don't invest.
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- Von: Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> Datum: 16.05.2015 06:42 (GMT+01:00) An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC There are some notable differences that proxim and deliberant and mikrotik for that matter don't have: [1] TDMA offloaded onto a co-processor [2] AirPrism [3] Realtime Spectrum Analysis [4] Very deep pockets for R&D What will be interesting to see is how well mimosa stacks up without the filtering and offloading, although they do have a possible edge in frequency statistics collection/AI and deep chipset/vendor relationship... it will be interesting to see how AirCRM turns out though, and if it ends up having comparable features. What Mimosa doesn't have is a huge existing worldwide user base (this can be a blessing, and a curse). All-in-all, the next 18 months will be very interesting. I do believe a few players have yet to enter the market this year, and plan to ;) Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 05/15/2015 08:18 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Am I the only one reading this discussion and shaking my head..... The comparison of these two is absurd and ridiculous... it reminds me of the discussion of this exact nature when Ubiquiti M products were first available in the market place and folks had conversation very similar Ubiquiti M (802.11n) vs Canopy (802.11 b/g) products ? Ubiquiti AC PTMP is one of the first 802.11ac PTMP system in the market place... A better comparison would be with PTMP systems of the same class... (e.g. Mimosa PTMP, expected later this year, and I would not be surprised at all if Cambium also has a 802.11ac PTMP product in their pipeline.).... Didn't Trango also announce / have a shipping PTMP system based on 802.11ac ? Anyone has info on that ? :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> To: "af" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:23:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC Which is where ePMP comes in. you get reasonable cost and sync... which makes good spectrum management a lot easier. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: Perhaps, but at 1000x the cost. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: I'd suggest with careful spectrum management, proper loading, AND better equipment you'd still be better off. I have 22 towers with over a hundred UBNT APs in a valley 11 miles wide, built over the top of a synced Canopy network. I take about 10 customers a week off of their 450 platform and we are constantly told that the difference is night and day better on our network. Careful spectrum management and proper AP loading wins over sync every time. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: No, we can't always control that, but if I can at least control it sometimes, I'll take it. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: And you have the opinion you can control that, constantly, on unlicensed spectrum? *smirk* Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 05/15/2015 05:46 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: That's a very good point, regardless of what some customers seem to think, mbps really isn't the most important thing... On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: I've always considered mbps to be among the least important concerns on PTMP, well below packet loss, jitter, QoS features, manageability, consistency, and reliability. Which is why I'm not super keen on *any* of the wifi stuff. This seems is like an argument about whether a Pinto is better than a Fiesta. </smug> One could say "I can sync but I can only get 60 Mbps per sub" (*) Another person could say "I can't sync but I can get 200+ Mbps per sub" (*) (*) under the right conditions Your market and deployment strats will dictate which is more important. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 05/15/2015 04:56 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: But no sync. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 3:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC AC blows doors on ePMP Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-0000 [email protected] From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 11:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC I know this isn't an apples to apples comparison, but what are other's thoughts on these two products? I'm looking at 5GHz, and I know the AC gear doesn't have the lower 5GHz bands - hopefully they will in the near future. -Jason
