Yeah, Gilroy garlic and Monterrey clam chowder are some of my favs from your part of the world.

-----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

I love apples.

As long as they're not from Cupertino...

bp
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On 5/16/2015 11:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Apples, (black)Lincolns and Birkenstocks are for rich liberal democrats.

PCs (specifically Dells), white Cadillacs and Ostrich Boots are for rich conservative republicans.

Republican boys like to date democrat girls but marry republican girls (and later cheat with democrat divorcees).

Democrat girls like to date democrat boys but they are all too poor and stoned and majoring in liberal arts or political science.

Republican girls just run around with each other getting drunk until some republican boy sobers up enough to ask them for marriage.

Poor republican boys get reality shows involving guns, mud, moonshine and wrestling animals in a swamp.

Poor democrat boys wear shirts with political causes printed on them, hang out with Goth cutter girls and smoke cigarettes.

Give a republican boy a welder and he will make a swamp buggy out of an old VW. Give a democrat boy a welder and he will turn it into an objet d'art symbolizing the military industrial oppression of the worker.

And that  is why there are so many apple haters here...

-----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

I buy all of my groceries at Walmart and most of my electronics at apple. There are a lot of apple haters on here it seems.

I can walk a customer through setting up their AirPort Extreme a lot easier than Asus, netgear, or dlink. The Apple interface never changes. It's the same for every model. The others change their gui quite frequently.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On May 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

I remember telling a customer he should either learn how to configure his AirPort himself, get AppleCare, or get a regular router like a Linksys or Netgear with a web GUI if he expected his ISP to provide step-by-step phone support.

He said he would go out and buy a non-Apple router.

He came back with a TimeMachine.

That's another thing I hate about Apple, they have to use special names for ordinary things, so people don't compare prices. So you don't have a router, you have an AirPort. You don't have an external hard drive, you have a TimeMachine.

But just like some people only shop at WalMart, some people only shop for electronics at the Apple Store. Probably the same people who buy all their groceries at Whole Foods.


-----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

No doubt.

The least they could do is to give it a web GUI. Beyond me why it has to
be some proprietary interface.

bp
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On 5/16/2015 10:37 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 5/16/15 10:17, Bill Prince wrote:

Plus, for reasons that are not clear to me, Apple has to change the way
the stupid AirPort admin tool works every month or two. So even if you
knew how to set it up in August; come September it's a whole new ball game.


Software developers need to do something.

~Seth




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