I'm the farthest right wing conservative you're likely to ever meet, not rich 
but not poor, and white. I only use PC if there is an absolute reason for 
it...and that is extremely rare. All of the best networking tools work best on 
mac.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On May 16, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Apples, (black)Lincolns and Birkenstocks are for rich liberal democrats.
> 
> PCs (specifically Dells), white Cadillacs and Ostrich Boots are for rich 
> conservative republicans.
> 
> Republican boys like to date democrat girls but marry republican girls (and 
> later cheat with democrat divorcees).
> 
> Democrat girls like to date democrat boys but they are all too poor and 
> stoned and majoring in liberal arts or political science.
> 
> Republican girls just run around with each other getting drunk until some 
> republican boy sobers up enough to ask them for marriage.
> 
> Poor republican boys get reality shows involving guns, mud, moonshine and 
> wrestling animals in a swamp.
> 
> Poor democrat boys wear shirts with political causes printed on them, hang 
> out with Goth cutter girls and smoke cigarettes.
> 
> Give a republican boy a welder and he will make a swamp buggy out  of an old 
> VW.
> Give a democrat boy a welder and he will turn it into an objet d'art 
> symbolizing the military industrial oppression of the worker.
> 
> And that  is why there are so many apple haters here...
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:43 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
> 
> I buy all of my groceries at Walmart and most of my electronics at apple. 
> There are a lot of apple haters on here it seems.
> 
> I can walk a customer through setting up their AirPort Extreme a lot easier 
> than Asus, netgear, or dlink. The Apple interface never changes. It's the 
> same for every model. The others change their gui quite frequently.
> 
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
> 
>> On May 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I remember telling a customer he should either learn how to configure his 
>> AirPort himself, get AppleCare, or get a regular router like a Linksys or 
>> Netgear with a web GUI if he expected his ISP to provide step-by-step phone 
>> support.
>> 
>> He said he would go out and buy a non-Apple router.
>> 
>> He came back with a TimeMachine.
>> 
>> That's another thing I hate about Apple, they have to use special names for 
>> ordinary things, so people don't compare prices.  So you don't have a 
>> router, you have an AirPort.  You don't have an external hard drive, you 
>> have a TimeMachine.
>> 
>> But just like some people only shop at WalMart, some people only shop for 
>> electronics at the Apple Store.  Probably the same people who buy all their 
>> groceries at Whole Foods.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:06 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
>> 
>> No doubt.
>> 
>> The least they could do is to give it a web GUI. Beyond me why it has to
>> be some proprietary interface.
>> 
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> 
>>>> On 5/16/2015 10:37 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>> On 5/16/15 10:17, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Plus, for reasons that are not clear to me, Apple has to change the way
>>>> the stupid AirPort admin tool works every month or two. So even if you
>>>> knew how to set it up in August; come September it's a whole new ball game.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Software developers need to do something.
>>> 
>>> ~Seth
> 

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