You don't need a lot of money to start manufacturing. You just need to know the 
right people. 

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On May 29, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Jason McKemie <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I hope you have a lot more money than most people here...
> 
>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yep, it sure does seem that way. I'm trying to think outside of the box, but 
>> every time I do I get back to the same place. Nothing I can do this with is 
>> on the market yet or never will be. I'm getting more and more tempted every 
>> day to start manufacturing my own stuff. I've already started looking into 
>> that. 
>> 
>> Anything you guys would like to see come to market? If I go into 
>> manufacturing I'm going to be all in.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You need a different strategy.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:18 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> You're very right about the 24GHz. I know several companies are working on 
>>> something in 60GHz which would be ideal because it's not a very large area 
>>> and can be daisy chained into a ring. 80GHz would be fine, but like you 
>>> said nothing seems to exist. These CCS devices look great and might be 
>>> exactly what I'm looking for. I just hope the price is right. They are 26 
>>> and 28GHz. But I think Vivint has a bit of a monopoly in my area with all 
>>> of their 28GHz radios all over the place. I'm afraid the noise would be too 
>>> much, even with the narrow beams. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 29, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm pretty sure the FCC doesn't allow PtMP in 24ghz. I don't know if 
>>> anything exists for PtMP in 80ghz... or maybe 60ghz?
>>> 
>>> It seems like the only real option here is 28ghz.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can buy spectrum in 28GHz and use Cambridge like Vivato does or 
>>> depending on how many clients and range you are talking about, maybe 
>>> something in 24 or 80GHz.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:58 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> You know that's why they sync, right?  You can have a whole lot of sync'ed 
>>> APs/masters at the one site and as long as they're transmitting at the same 
>>> time and the client/slave sites aren't nearing the different master's 
>>> you'll be fine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is exactly what I'm looking for. I need something inexpensive 
>>> comparatively and it needs to be PtMP. I could use airfibers if I could do 
>>> PTP, but that would be FAR too many radios in one location competing for 
>>> airtime.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh, I currently use 3.65, but I need high capacity. 80Mb at best is not 
>>> near enough.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 29, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You’re looking for licensed PtMP backhaul?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> If that is the case, then CCS has a 28GHz offering with StraightPath.  But 
>>> not sure what you’re looking at price wise.  You may just investigate 
>>> multiple 23GHz shots or something similar depending on distance.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Just want to make sure the request is clear.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ***************************************************************************
>>> 
>>> Daniel White - Managing Director
>>> 
>>> SAF North America LLC
>>> 
>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>> 
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> Skype: danieldwhite
>>> Social: LinkedIn
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ***************************************************************************
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:42 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I'm looking for backhaul. Anything in 2.4 or 5GHz won't work.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 29, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> EPMP and maybe Ubnt AC
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>> On May 29, 2015 5:32 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm looking for the best high capacity and low cost PTMP solution. This is 
>>> for my backhauls to distribute to smaller cells in a large area. Anyone 
>>> know of something that fits this description?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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