Wasn't the reason something along the lines of it taking too long to scan everything because of the 1mhz increments? On Aug 9, 2015 2:21 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> According to the forum post it didn't seem technical... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Aug 9, 2015 3:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We don't know the internals nearly as well as him. Maybe there's some >> inherit technical reason? *shrugs* >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:59:10 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >> >> It's funny how all of us buying the equipment agree. The only one I've >> seen defending the feature is Chuck :/ >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Aug 9, 2015 2:38 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I understand not having an open-ended array of channel choices for >>> backups, but... maybe ten? 15? Just do the damn thing automatically to any >>> available space it finds? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:35:38 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> Then I will have to accept that I like silly and will stick with >>> products with that feature. What good is hundreds of channels if you can >>> only accept 3, especially if the radio is making the choice to find the >>> best channel for you? I know that isn’t the case in noplace Kansas but in >>> the middle of Phoenix, or as Gino is constantly pointing out, 5GHz hell, >>> that doesn’t work well. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:28 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> Because Chuck thinks it is a silly feature. >>> >>> The af5x can do single mhz jumps. This means the master can be in 100s >>> of channels if you know the size. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2015 2:17 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The one thing I like on the AC-PTP and in fact all the radios, is the >>> ability to select or unselect every single useable channel if the AP is set >>> to auto. That is really a great feature on AirOS. The three channel limit >>> that I have to set manually on the AF5x is annoying. Most of the interface >>> is the same, why didn’t that feature make it to the AF5x? >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:50 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> ~33%, IIRC is what you COULD achieve. That said, staying with UBNT AF5x >>> isn't that much more than the AC-PTP and is worlds better. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]> >>> *Sent: *Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:45:56 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> Agreed, in my limited experience it didn't seem like UBNT AC does as >>> well with noise... and when you only have 5.8ghz to work with, finding a >>> clean channel isn't always exactly easy. >>> >>> And if you don't have enough signal for 256qam, you're not really >>> gaining a whole lot from AC anyhow. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Josh Luthman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Lot more bandwidth? I don't think so... >>> >>> If there is noise I'm almost certain the epmp would win. Look at my >>> first case with them - Ubnt couldn't exceed 5 megs aggregate where epmp >>> gets me 50+ in the same frequency and physical spot. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2015 8:08 AM, "Paul McCall" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> What is the appeal of using ePTP vs. a Mikrotik (or UBNT) AC product >>> with a lot more BW in the same channel size? >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Craig House >>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 6:03 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> EPTP >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 4:53:35 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> Tdd ptp or eptp? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Aug 8, 2015 5:37 PM, "Craig House" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I have a pair of unsynced 5Ghz on Force dishes that I put up in April. >>> They run pretty much flawlessly. They are 4 miles apart and push around >>> 80mb each way in a 20mhz channel. No complaints. Other than the crappy >>> design of the dish which I would have tossed off the tower when I was >>> installing it if I had an alternative. >>> >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]> >>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:50:51 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 about. >>> >>> >>> >>> So I assume we'll see about half the current latency with 2.5 msec? I >>> can live with that for most links. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the confirmation. And on a Saturday!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Dan Sullivan < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> 2.5 msec frame allows for sync and improves PTP latency as compared to 5 >>> msec frame. >>> >>> >>> >>> ePTP cannot be synced as communication is driven based on dynamic data >>> from each link. >>> >>> >>> Dan Sullivan >>> >>> ePMP Software Manager >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 10:11 AM >>> *To:* af >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> Yep, I'm pretty sure it doesn't use fixed frames in ePTP mode... trying >>> to sync that sounds like it'd end up like airmax sync. >>> >>> 2.5ms frames make sync a lot more useful for ptp though. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Josh Luthman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> But that depends on frame timing which would leave you at the current >>> tdd ptp (5ms today, 2.5ms after 2.5). I'd love to see the 2ms latency be >>> synced but I don't see how that would be doable. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Aug 8, 2015 7:54 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> No, I mean exactly what I said ePTP sync. >>> >>> There's no reason that I'm aware of that the ePTP up\down cycles >>> couldn't be synced. The regular sync has to deal with potentially dozens of >>> clients. The ePTP just has to deal with one. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:48:14 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> Eptp sync doesn't sound possible. That's what the tdd ptp is for. Do >>> you mean the 2.5ms timing? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Aug 8, 2015 7:47 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Though* Early in the morning... >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:45:55 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> Is it, thought? ;-) >>> >>> >>> FWIW, I have some ePTP up (eagerly awaiting ePTP sync!) and no issues >>> that I'm aware of. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Friday, August 7, 2015 4:41:45 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> How long has it been up? According to Cambium I'm the only one that's >>> been experiencing a bug and it's all over the place. They've got a fix for >>> it but it's just so weird that I'm the only one with the problem =/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yep, I just replaced a pair of NanoBridges with Force 110's doing ePTP a >>> couple days ago and we have at least one other. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Anyone at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
