Yes, last-mile I'm not so concerned with. It's the 50+ miles of PTP links that add up. Now double that if a link goes down and traffic goes the long way 'round. I'm all for licensed, but the guy that writes the checks isn't. :(

On 8/9/2015 6:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Oh for backhauls yes. I thought you were talking about those last mile extra bumps from the grain leg to home.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 9, 2015 7:22 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Well, it's a big deal to me after two or three links. And there's
    no reason to go licensed on these paths (yet).

    On 8/9/2015 4:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
    Hmm I never had a problem getting them started.  FWIW I'm getting
    1-2 ms from my desktop, through my router/eptp/switches at the
    tower down to our BMU.

I also don't think 20ms is that big a deal for most customers. If they get say 60ms from their machine to most anything in a
    datacenter they should be better off than most cable/dsl
    circuits, no?


    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 5:55 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Yes. Ran out of time and had to get the link back up.
        Could've been something else stupid I overlooked though. I'll
        mess with a pair in the office next week.

        On 8/9/2015 4:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

        Did you set the slave to eptp slave?  They use different
        drivers.

        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Aug 9, 2015 5:41 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            OK so back to ePMP PTP. I had to put up a 500' link
            between two grain legs. Used integrated radios on 2.4.3.
            I tried ePTP, but they wouldn't link up. Thinking maybe
            too short? I don't know, so I just switched them to TDD
            PTP w/ flexible framing instead. Latency is like 15ms. I
            hate it. I have a couple other links still on 2.3.3 also
            doing flexible framing and latency is very consistently
            7ms. Only thing I can think is that this new short link
            is on 5.4GHz and it's actually forcing fixed framing
            (even though it says flexible) because of DFS? Either
            that or something is very different between 2.3.3 and 2.4.3.

            Anyway.. we were thinking about switching out a bunch of
            5GHz Rocket links (because they cannot handle noise at
            all) with ePMP GPS. We get very good latency with the
            Rockets, typically under 3ms when the front ends aren't
            swamped, but I will NOT do 15-20ms with ePMP, that's
            just stupid. The whole idea was sync, and since ePTP
            doesn't sync.. not sure what to do. Maybe 2.5ms framing
            and 50/50 TDD will get me 7ms, and w/ sync?





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