Too long to scan for a master? If the damn slave isn't associated who cares if it takes 15 minutes to scan? It's a whole lot better than your backhaul being down and you being forced to drive to the slave site. Let's say there's 1 second per frequency at 1000 MHz. That's 1000 seconds or 16.66 minutes.
So it comes down to 16.66 minutes versus drive to the remote site. Pretty simple decision IMO. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > Wasn't the reason something along the lines of it taking too long to scan > everything because of the 1mhz increments? > On Aug 9, 2015 2:21 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> According to the forum post it didn't seem technical... >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Aug 9, 2015 3:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We don't know the internals nearly as well as him. Maybe there's some >>> inherit technical reason? *shrugs* >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:59:10 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> It's funny how all of us buying the equipment agree. The only one I've >>> seen defending the feature is Chuck :/ >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Aug 9, 2015 2:38 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I understand not having an open-ended array of channel choices for >>>> backups, but... maybe ten? 15? Just do the damn thing automatically to any >>>> available space it finds? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:35:38 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> Then I will have to accept that I like silly and will stick with >>>> products with that feature. What good is hundreds of channels if you can >>>> only accept 3, especially if the radio is making the choice to find the >>>> best channel for you? I know that isn’t the case in noplace Kansas but in >>>> the middle of Phoenix, or as Gino is constantly pointing out, 5GHz hell, >>>> that doesn’t work well. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:28 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Because Chuck thinks it is a silly feature. >>>> >>>> The af5x can do single mhz jumps. This means the master can be in 100s >>>> of channels if you know the size. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Aug 9, 2015 2:17 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> The one thing I like on the AC-PTP and in fact all the radios, is the >>>> ability to select or unselect every single useable channel if the AP is set >>>> to auto. That is really a great feature on AirOS. The three channel limit >>>> that I have to set manually on the AF5x is annoying. Most of the interface >>>> is the same, why didn’t that feature make it to the AF5x? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:50 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ~33%, IIRC is what you COULD achieve. That said, staying with UBNT AF5x >>>> isn't that much more than the AC-PTP and is worlds better. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent: *Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:45:56 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> Agreed, in my limited experience it didn't seem like UBNT AC does as >>>> well with noise... and when you only have 5.8ghz to work with, finding a >>>> clean channel isn't always exactly easy. >>>> >>>> And if you don't have enough signal for 256qam, you're not really >>>> gaining a whole lot from AC anyhow. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Josh Luthman < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Lot more bandwidth? I don't think so... >>>> >>>> If there is noise I'm almost certain the epmp would win. Look at my >>>> first case with them - Ubnt couldn't exceed 5 megs aggregate where epmp >>>> gets me 50+ in the same frequency and physical spot. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Aug 9, 2015 8:08 AM, "Paul McCall" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> What is the appeal of using ePTP vs. a Mikrotik (or UBNT) AC product >>>> with a lot more BW in the same channel size? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Craig House >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 6:03 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> EPTP >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 4:53:35 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tdd ptp or eptp? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Aug 8, 2015 5:37 PM, "Craig House" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have a pair of unsynced 5Ghz on Force dishes that I put up in April. >>>> They run pretty much flawlessly. They are 4 miles apart and push around >>>> 80mb each way in a 20mhz channel. No complaints. Other than the crappy >>>> design of the dish which I would have tossed off the tower when I was >>>> installing it if I had an alternative. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Craig >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:50:51 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 about. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So I assume we'll see about half the current latency with 2.5 msec? I >>>> can live with that for most links. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for the confirmation. And on a Saturday!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Dan Sullivan < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> 2.5 msec frame allows for sync and improves PTP latency as compared to >>>> 5 msec frame. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ePTP cannot be synced as communication is driven based on dynamic data >>>> from each link. >>>> >>>> >>>> Dan Sullivan >>>> >>>> ePMP Software Manager >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 10:11 AM >>>> *To:* af >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yep, I'm pretty sure it doesn't use fixed frames in ePTP mode... trying >>>> to sync that sounds like it'd end up like airmax sync. >>>> >>>> 2.5ms frames make sync a lot more useful for ptp though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Josh Luthman < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> But that depends on frame timing which would leave you at the current >>>> tdd ptp (5ms today, 2.5ms after 2.5). I'd love to see the 2ms latency be >>>> synced but I don't see how that would be doable. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Aug 8, 2015 7:54 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I mean exactly what I said ePTP sync. >>>> >>>> There's no reason that I'm aware of that the ePTP up\down cycles >>>> couldn't be synced. The regular sync has to deal with potentially dozens of >>>> clients. The ePTP just has to deal with one. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:48:14 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> Eptp sync doesn't sound possible. That's what the tdd ptp is for. Do >>>> you mean the 2.5ms timing? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Aug 8, 2015 7:47 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Though* Early in the morning... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:45:55 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> Is it, thought? ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> FWIW, I have some ePTP up (eagerly awaiting ePTP sync!) and no issues >>>> that I'm aware of. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Friday, August 7, 2015 4:41:45 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>>> >>>> How long has it been up? According to Cambium I'm the only one that's >>>> been experiencing a bug and it's all over the place. They've got a fix for >>>> it but it's just so weird that I'm the only one with the problem =/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yep, I just replaced a pair of NanoBridges with Force 110's doing ePTP >>>> a couple days ago and we have at least one other. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Anyone at all? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
