No public betas. Our releases are either internal or production ready, not going to have anything in between.

The only exception might be if we design a system and want to get feedback on it, I guess. But I don't think we'd really call that a beta - it would still be a completed system and we'd consider it safe for production, it just might change based on feedback from people.

On 9/29/2015 3:06 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
or is that a "no public beta testing via production releases like everybody seems to do these days"

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

read the forum / notes. it basically says "no beta. ever. ". not sure how that will work...
    that's a LOT of testing for it to never be released to beta...
    i mean, we all use the software in a different way...

        ----- Original Message -----
        *From:* Brett A Mansfield <mailto:[email protected]>
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:30 PM
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

        Only question I have is will it be beta forever? I'm kinda
        done with all of this beta crap.

        Thank you,
        Brett A Mansfield

        On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        No it's CALLED sonar.  Which means it doesn't have it.  Isn't
        that what all the cool clubs do?


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Daniel White
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            It uses Sonar.  Geesh.

            Thank you,

            Daniel White

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            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
            *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:54 AM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

            OK.  Why does it have a radar detector?  Does it know
            that speeding is wrong?


            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
            Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373

            On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Simon Westlake
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Yes, when it detects radar, it shuts down.

                On 9/29/2015 11:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

                    When is the release date?

                    How much processing power does it take?

                    How does it perform in the real world?

                    Will it do DFS?


                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Adam Moffett
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        Hah.
                        Will it be more or less than Powercode?
                        Will it be more or less than Platypus?




                        On 9/29/2015 12:08 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:

                            Yes, I can confidently say that it will
                            cost more than Freeside.

                            On 9/29/2015 11:07 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

                                Is it more expensive than Freeside?

                                ehheh


                                Vlad

                                On 9/29/2015 10:37 AM, Simon Westlake
                                wrote:

                                    I'll be sharing stuff on the
                                    list, forum and blog as time goes
                                    on. Nothing just yet, but we are
                                    bringing the first few early
                                    access participants in who won't
                                    be in NDA, so they are free to
                                    share anything they want as well.

                                    No, it's all original code built
                                    on completely different
                                    technology than Powercode was.
                                    It's a very different platform.

                                    On 9/29/2015 10:35 AM, Steve wrote:

                                        Can we get any more details?
                                        Screen shots? Etas? Roadmaps?
                                        Like is this a fork of
                                        Powercode or from the ground up?

                                        ----- Original Message -----
                                        From: "Simon Westlake"
                                        <[email protected]>
                                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                                        To: [email protected]
                                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                                        Sent: Tuesday, September 29,
                                        2015 11:04:37 AM
                                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP
                                        Billing Solution: Sonar

                                        I don't dare ask which part.

                                        On 9/29/2015 9:39 AM, Josh
                                        Luthman wrote:

                                            Reminds me of Silicon Valley.

                                            Josh Luthman
                                            Office: 937-552-2340
                                            <tel:937-552-2340>
                                            Direct: 937-552-2343
                                            <tel:937-552-2343>
                                            1100 Wayne St
                                            Suite 1337
                                            Troy, OH 45373

                                            On Sep 29, 2015 10:32 AM,
                                            "Lewis Bergman"
                                            <[email protected]
                                            <mailto:[email protected]>
                                            <mailto:[email protected]
                                            <mailto:[email protected]>>>
                                            wrote:

                                                 Maybe he got good
                                            advice from a lawyer. I
                                            am not one but my
                                             understanding is that a
                                            noncompete can't be so
                                            broad as to prevent
                                                 future employment,
                                            which moving out of the
                                            country would definably
                                                 qualify as.


                                                 On Tue, Sep 29,
                                            2015, 9:19 AM Keefe John
                                            <[email protected]
                                            <mailto:[email protected]>
                                             <mailto:[email protected]
                                            <mailto:[email protected]>>>
                                            wrote:

                                                     Maybe he's
                                            operating from a
                                            moonbase...or russia.

                                                     On 9/29/2015
                                            9:16 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
                                                     > Wonder how
                                            Simon is getting around
                                            Bertram's 5000 mile non
                                             compete
                                                     > exclusion zone?
                                                     >
                                                     > -----Original
                                            Message----- From: Keefe John
                                                     > Sent: Tuesday,
                                            September 29, 2015 8:14 AM
                                                     > To: Animal Farm
                                                     > Subject:
                                            [AFMUG] New ISP Billing
                                            Solution: Sonar
                                                     >
                                                     > This website
just popped up today. The product looks very
                                             exciting!
                                                     > I can't wait
                                            to find out more about it.
                                                     >
                                                     >
                                            https://sonar.software/
                                                     >
                                                     >
                                            
https://sonar.community/t/announcing-sonar/30
                                                     >
                                                     >
                                                     > Keefe John
                                                     > Ethoplex
                                                     >



            
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