Devin is in charge of buttons. We have all kinds in different shapes and colors. On Sep 29, 2015 3:24 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
> This should be an interesting answer.... > > -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar > > Does it come with an "Import From Powercode" button? > > Simon Westlake wrote: > >> Yeah. I'm not saying 'we promise, there will never be any bugs.' But, >> we're not putting something out and saying 'ehh, it probably works. If it >> doesn't, it's beta!' >> >> The whole platform is built around automated testing. Every single thing >> we can think of has an automated test written around it. So anytime we >> change anything, we can run our test suite (which already takes a very long >> time..) and know categorically if we've broken anything. On desktop, >> mobile, the API, billing, one credit card processor in particular - >> everything. >> >> Makes it a lot easier to say 'we're very confident this works.' >> >> I think, the other thing that is going to make this different is we're >> not trying to make every single thing possible for every single person. We >> brought an accountant on board to help design the billing system. She >> directed us in the application of a lot of the billing functionality so it >> could be reported properly and audited properly. This means it's pretty >> likely at some point, somebody is going to ask to do XYZ, and we're going >> to say no - not because we don't want to, but because we've built a system >> that adheres to a specific set of principles, and in the eyes of the >> system, deviating from those principles is fundamentally wrong. >> >> The good side of that is that things just work in a sane way, and we're >> really confident that anyone with an accounting background is going to be >> happy with the reporting and audit trail in the system. We're building the >> front end to be pretty simple and easy to use (you don't need to be a CPA >> to figure out how to bill) and that's really how we're trying to approach >> each part of the system - have a clear set of laws defined for how a >> specific system works, and then build interfaces that lets humans easily >> use them. >> >> On 9/29/2015 2:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: >> >>> � >>> read the forum / notes.� it basically says "no beta. >>> ever.�".��� not sure how that will work... >>> that's a LOT of testing for it to never be released to beta... >>> i mean, we all use the software in a different way... >>> � >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Brett A Mansfield <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:30 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar >>> >>> Only question I have is will it be beta forever? I'm kinda done >>> with all of this beta crap. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Brett A Mansfield >>> >>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> No it's CALLED sonar.� Which means it doesn't have it.� >>>> Isn't that what all the cool clubs do? >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Daniel White >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> It uses Sonar.� Geesh. >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> Daniel White >>>> >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>__ >>>> >>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> >>>> >>>> Skype: danieldwhite >>>> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84>: >>>> Twitter <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh >>>> Luthman >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:54 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> OK.� Why does it have a radar detector?� Does it know >>>> that speeding is wrong? >>>> >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Simon Westlake >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, when it detects radar, it shuts down. >>>> >>>> On 9/29/2015 11:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>> When is the release date? >>>> >>>> How much processing power does it take? >>>> >>>> How does it perform in the real world? >>>> >>>> Will it do DFS? >>>> >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Adam Moffett >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hah. >>>> Will it be more or less than Powercode? >>>> Will it be more or less than Platypus? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/29/2015 12:08 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, I can confidently say that it will cost >>>> more than Freeside. >>>> >>>> On 9/29/2015 11:07 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote: >>>> >>>> Is it more expensive than Freeside? >>>> >>>> ehheh >>>> >>>> >>>> Vlad >>>> >>>> On 9/29/2015 10:37 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: >>>> >>>> I'll be sharing stuff on the list, >>>> forum and blog as time goes on. >>>> Nothing just yet, but we are >>>> bringing the first few early access >>>> participants in who won't be in NDA, >>>> so they are free to share anything >>>> they want as well. >>>> >>>> No, it's all original code built on >>>> completely different technology than >>>> Powercode was. It's a very different >>>> platform. >>>> >>>> On 9/29/2015 10:35 AM, Steve wrote: >>>> >>>> Can we get any more details?� >>>> Screen shots?� Etas?� >>>> Roadmaps?� Like is this a fork >>>> of Powercode or from the ground up? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Simon Westlake" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, >>>> 2015 11:04:37 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP >>>> Billing Solution: Sonar >>>> >>>> I don't dare ask which part. >>>> >>>> On 9/29/2015 9:39 AM, Josh >>>> Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>> Reminds me of Silicon Valley. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> <tel:937-552-2340> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> <tel:937-552-2343> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Sep 29, 2015 10:32 AM, >>>> "Lewis Bergman" >>>> <[email protected] >>>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> � � �Maybe he got good >>>> advice from a lawyer. I am >>>> not one but my >>>> � � �understanding is >>>> that a noncompete can't be >>>> so broad as to prevent >>>> � � �future >>>> employment, which moving out >>>> of the country would definably >>>> � � �qualify as. >>>> >>>> >>>> � � �On Tue, Sep 29, >>>> 2015, 9:19 AM Keefe John >>>> <[email protected] >>>> � � >>>> >>>> �<mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> � � � � �Maybe >>>> he's operating from a >>>> moonbase...or russia. >>>> >>>> � � � � �On >>>> 9/29/2015 9:16 AM, Chuck >>>> McCown wrote: >>>> � � � � �> Wonder >>>> how Simon is getting around >>>> Bertram's 5000 mile non >>>> � � � � �compete >>>> � � � � �> >>>> exclusion zone? >>>> � � � � �> >>>> � � � � �> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Keefe John >>>> � � � � �> Sent: >>>> Tuesday, September 29, 2015 >>>> 8:14 AM >>>> � � � � �> To: >>>> Animal Farm >>>> � � � � �> >>>> Subject: [AFMUG] New ISP >>>> Billing Solution: Sonar >>>> � � � � �> >>>> � � � � �> This >>>> website just popped up >>>> today.� The product looks very >>>> � � � � �exciting! >>>> � � � � �> I can't >>>> wait to find out more about it. >>>> � � � � �> >>>> � � � � �> >>>> https://sonar.software/ >>>> � � � � �> >>>> � � � � �> >>>> >>>> https://sonar.community/t/announcing-sonar/30 >>>> � � � � �> >>>> � � � � �> >>>> � � � � �> Keefe John >>>> � � � � �> Ethoplex >>>> � � � � �> >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Avast logo <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus >>>> software. >>>> www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >
