Also, import from Platypus? -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar
This should be an interesting answer.... -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar Does it come with an "Import From Powercode" button? Simon Westlake wrote: > Yeah. I'm not saying 'we promise, there will never be any bugs.' But, > we're not putting something out and saying 'ehh, it probably works. If > it doesn't, it's beta!' > > The whole platform is built around automated testing. Every single > thing we can think of has an automated test written around it. So > anytime we change anything, we can run our test suite (which already > takes a very long time..) and know categorically if we've broken > anything. On desktop, mobile, the API, billing, one credit card > processor in particular - everything. > > Makes it a lot easier to say 'we're very confident this works.' > > I think, the other thing that is going to make this different is we're > not trying to make every single thing possible for every single > person. We brought an accountant on board to help design the billing > system. She directed us in the application of a lot of the billing > functionality so it could be reported properly and audited properly. > This means it's pretty likely at some point, somebody is going to ask > to do XYZ, and we're going to say no - not because we don't want to, > but because we've built a system that adheres to a specific set of > principles, and in the eyes of the system, deviating from those principles is > fundamentally wrong. > > The good side of that is that things just work in a sane way, and > we're really confident that anyone with an accounting background is > going to be happy with the reporting and audit trail in the system. > We're building the front end to be pretty simple and easy to use (you > don't need to be a CPA to figure out how to bill) and that's really > how we're trying to approach each part of the system - have a clear > set of laws defined for how a specific system works, and then build > interfaces that lets humans easily use them. > > On 9/29/2015 2:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: >> � >> read the forum / notes.� it basically says "no beta. >> ever.�".��� not sure how that will work... >> that's a LOT of testing for it to never be released to beta... >> i mean, we all use the software in a different way... >> � >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Brett A Mansfield <mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:30 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar >> >> Only question I have is will it be beta forever? I'm kinda done >> with all of this beta crap. >> >> Thank you, >> Brett A Mansfield >> >> On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> No it's CALLED sonar.� Which means it doesn't have it.� >>> Isn't that what all the cool clubs do? >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Daniel White >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> It uses Sonar.� Geesh. >>> >>> � >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> � >>> >>> Daniel White >>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>__ >>> >>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> >>> >>> Skype: danieldwhite >>> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84>: >>> Twitter <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> >>> >>> � >>> >>> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh >>> Luthman >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:54 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar >>> >>> � >>> >>> OK.� Why does it have a radar detector?� Does it know >>> that speeding is wrong? >>> >>> >>> � >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> � >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Simon Westlake >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, when it detects radar, it shuts down. >>> >>> On 9/29/2015 11:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> When is the release date? >>> >>> How much processing power does it take? >>> >>> How does it perform in the real world? >>> >>> Will it do DFS? >>> >>> >>> � >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> � >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Adam Moffett >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hah. >>> Will it be more or less than Powercode? >>> Will it be more or less than Platypus? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/29/2015 12:08 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I can confidently say that it will cost >>> more than Freeside. >>> >>> On 9/29/2015 11:07 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote: >>> >>> Is it more expensive than Freeside? >>> >>> ehheh >>> >>> >>> Vlad >>> >>> On 9/29/2015 10:37 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: >>> >>> I'll be sharing stuff on the list, >>> forum and blog as time goes on. >>> Nothing just yet, but we are >>> bringing the first few early access >>> participants in who won't be in NDA, >>> so they are free to share anything >>> they want as well. >>> >>> No, it's all original code built on >>> completely different technology than >>> Powercode was. It's a very different >>> platform. >>> >>> On 9/29/2015 10:35 AM, Steve wrote: >>> >>> Can we get any more details?� >>> Screen shots?� Etas?� >>> Roadmaps?� Like is this a fork >>> of Powercode or from the ground up? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Simon Westlake" >>> <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, >>> 2015 11:04:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP >>> Billing Solution: Sonar >>> >>> I don't dare ask which part. >>> >>> On 9/29/2015 9:39 AM, Josh >>> Luthman wrote: >>> >>> Reminds me of Silicon Valley. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Sep 29, 2015 10:32 AM, >>> "Lewis Bergman" >>> <[email protected] >>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> � � �Maybe he got good >>> advice from a lawyer. I am >>> not one but my >>> � � �understanding is >>> that a noncompete can't be >>> so broad as to prevent >>> � � �future >>> employment, which moving out >>> of the country would definably >>> � � �qualify as. >>> >>> >>> � � �On Tue, Sep 29, >>> 2015, 9:19 AM Keefe John >>> <[email protected] >>> � � >>> >>> �<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> � � � � �Maybe >>> he's operating from a >>> moonbase...or russia. >>> >>> � � � � �On >>> 9/29/2015 9:16 AM, Chuck >>> McCown wrote: >>> � � � � �> Wonder >>> how Simon is getting around >>> Bertram's 5000 mile non >>> � � � � �compete >>> � � � � �> >>> exclusion zone? >>> � � � � �> >>> � � � � �> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Keefe John >>> � � � � �> Sent: >>> Tuesday, September 29, 2015 >>> 8:14 AM >>> � � � � �> To: >>> Animal Farm >>> � � � � �> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] New ISP >>> Billing Solution: Sonar >>> � � � � �> >>> � � � � �> This >>> website just popped up >>> today.� The product looks very >>> � � � � �exciting! >>> � � � � �> I can't >>> wait to find out more about it. >>> � � � � �> >>> � � � � �> >>> https://sonar.software/ >>> � � � � �> >>> � � � � �> >>> >>> https://sonar.community/t/announcing-sonar/30 >>> � � � � �> >>> � � � � �> >>> � � � � �> Keefe John >>> � � � � �> Ethoplex >>> � � � � �> >>> >>> � >>> >>> � >>> >>> � >>> >>> � >>> >>> � >>> >>> � >>> >>> � >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Avast logo <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus >>> software. >>> www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>> >>> >>> >
