I was talking about trying to make it across the traffic circle instead of underneath it. Anything with 6 kids is a challenge...even having more kids.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > Paris, dragging 6 little kids. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2015 10:39 AM > *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings > > The one in Paris? Not near the life threatening thrill. Maybe you are > talking about another one? > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Try walking to the obelisk... >> Holy crap talk about a risk. >> >> *From:* Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2015 12:54 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >> >> >> Last time I was in Paris my wife got impatient trying to find a way over >> to the Arc de Triomphe and wanted to just run across the circle. I am all >> for risky thrill seeking but not certain death. >> >> For those that haven't been there, it is in the middle of a traffic >> circle with 12 large roads going in and out and the road must be 40 or 50 >> yards wide. Traffic whirs around that thing like a cyclotron. >> >> My wife is also 5 foot and has the legs of a wobly two year old. We did >> eventually find the underground tunnels. I told her "Look at all those >> people, there must be 200 hundred of them. I can promise you out of that >> many at least 20 would still be strewn across the pavement with parts >> missing. There has to be a tunnel around here somewhere." >> >> The two nearest were hidden by those annoying street performers. I really >> don't like those people. I did get to see a guy on a moped with a bag of >> groceries and a cigarette in his mouth cut off a huge truck that I could >> swear he cleaned of the front left bumper of as he skittered by. >> >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 10:53 AM Patrick Leary <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> It’s mesmerizing to watch the scooter traffic in Rome. A bit like red >>> blood cells jostling around in the blood stream towards some destination. >>> >>> >>> >>> Patrick Leary, Telrad >>> >>> 727-501-3735 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2015 11:14 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >>> >>> >>> >>> I love Puerto Rico because you don’t signal on lane changes on the >>> freeways. >>> >>> >>> >>> (Worst place I ever drove was Athens, Manhattan is a country road by >>> comparison). >>> >>> *From:* Patrick Leary <[email protected]> >>> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:36 PM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >>> >>> >>> >>> I lived in Germany. There, people pay good money to earn the privilege >>> to drive. You must be 18 and it costs well over a grand. As a result, >>> German drivers are predictable. You’ll never see a German driver passing on >>> the right. You’ll never see a German driver holding up traffic in a left or >>> even middle lane. You won’t see a German change lanes without using their >>> indicator. And of course, Germans respect that government has a job and is >>> not the enemy, so they don’t reject taxation for infrastructure. As a >>> result, Germany has MUCH better roads than we do. Seriously. The German >>> autobahn is twice as thick and better banked. To be fair, we have thousands >>> of miles more of Interstate, so we do have a harder job. Still. Also, you >>> can’t drive a jalopy in Germany, which has strict inspection rules, that >>> even include aesthetics, but the emphasis is on safe functioning. >>> >>> >>> >>> We can’t realistically have the same regime though, we have much larger >>> distances and lots of backroads and farms and country roads. I think we >>> don’t need the same standard of road, but we do need roads that are >>> well-maintained, and we need much better driving skills. Our cops should >>> focus less on cherry-picking speed traps (many areas here in FL are >>> nationally famous for bullshit speed traps – e.g. Waldo, FL) and more on >>> ticketing bad drivers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Driver etiquette is the real differentiator between the U.S. and >>> Germany. A German won’t say, “I’m driving the speed limit so screw you, go >>> around.” Germans, like other Europeans, understand they have a civic >>> responsibility. Too many Americans reject civic responsibility as being >>> “against freedom” and “un-American.” The closest parallel in the U.S. to >>> how the Germans behave is the Mormon population, which places a very high >>> premium on civic responsibility, public dignity, decency, the idea of body >>> politic as one functioning unit. The concept of the Hive (ergo, Chuck’s >>> Beehive). >>> >>> >>> >>> - Patrick >>> >>> >>> >>> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>> >>> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:32 PM >>> *To:* af <[email protected]> >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >>> >>> >>> >>> What's right for one country, isn't necessarily right for another. While >>> I would love to be able to drive as fast I think is safe, knowing how the >>> typical American drives, I'd guess that it would be far more deadly here >>> than in Germany. I suspect the same logic applies to other stuff to some >>> extent. >>> >>> On Oct 10, 2015 11:05 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Countrys with weak gun control have more shot people. Simple logic in my >>> eyes. >>> >>> Nothing to say against if the majority of a country takes this into >>> account. Just strange in >>> >>> the eyes of a foreign citizen. >>> >>> In my country you can buy a BMW and drive as fast as you think it is ok >>> on highways. >>> >>> this kills, too. Same arguments here. It is the freedom to drive. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Von:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Mike Hammett >>> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 10. Oktober 2015 16:47 >>> *An:* [email protected] >>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >>> >>> >>> >>> Except that most mass shootings are done with weapons that were obtained >>> in circumstances that even the most strict of control laws would allow. The >>> weapons painted as being so evil just plain aren't used in these situations. >>> >>> Logic doesn't lead you to gun control. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:12:08 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >>> >>> I carry a .380 pistol with me most of the time but I only own three guns >>> myself. I also consider myself to have many Democratic views when it comes >>> to gun policy and Republican views with taxes & business aspects. >>> >>> >>> >>> I personally think it should be MUCH harder to purchase a firearm than >>> it is. When I purchased my new glock, I ordered it online at Gander >>> Mountain and walked into the store, they did a quick background check and I >>> walked out in 10 minutes. It was great to me as a consumer and easy. BUT, >>> what if I was angry or in the heat of the moment and wanted to harm people. >>> Now that easy gun purchase allowed me to walk out the same day with a >>> deadly weapon. >>> >>> >>> >>> I do not think our government is trying to take guns away as the crazy >>> Republicans like to lie about. I do think we should have much stricter gun >>> control though to keep the nutty people from having easy access. All that >>> is going to do is make it take longer to purchase a legal firearm, which I >>> am perfectly fine with if it prevents even one shooting death or mass >>> shooting. >>> >>> >>> >>> If there's other policies being proposed that can help limit access to >>> guns, I'm all for it if it still allows me to purchase a pistol to carry >>> legally and a shotgun to go hunting. I don't believe I should be allowed to >>> own a machine gun type weapon for use at my home. Weapons like that should >>> be allowed only at shooting ranges and locked up under heavy security. They >>> do not belong at a residential home anywhere for sport or home protection. >>> >>> >>> >>> So anyway, I think there are gun nuts out there that like to walk around >>> while open carrying and say Obama is trying to steal all our guns. I think >>> they're crazy and need a bonk on the head to come to your senses. Try >>> acting normal and conceal your weapon, don't talk like a crazy gun nut and >>> try to realize you don't need a machine gun. >>> >>> >>> >>> The government's job is to protect as many citizens as possible. That >>> means more laws, more enforcement, and more compliance. We can't easily >>> identify and stop all people who will commit a shooting crime. We can more >>> easily target guns themselves and prevent the sale of them to as many "bad" >>> people as possible. For "good" and legal people who want to buy one, stop >>> complaining about gun control and embrace it in order to help save lives. >>> Gun control isn't meant for good people, only the bad people. You'll still >>> be able to buy any weapon you "need" in order to hunt or protect your home. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Freedom is not the exercise to choose whatever you want. Heck then free >>> all the child molesters! Human beings need to be controlled, that the whole >>> reasoning behind laws. Im with Jaime and Stefan on this. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> There are many items that kill more humans than first world guns. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Friday, October 9, 2015 11:21:43 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >>> >>> Looking at this with a foreign view I can't understand this "gun love" >>> in US. It is not all about the criminals or idiots. Just look at the >>> statistics for accidents with weapons. The only way to save lifes is to be >>> very restrictive. If someone wants to shoot he can go to a shooting club >>> and leave the weapon there. It is not freedom to have a gun at home. It is >>> silly esp. with kids around. >>> >>> You can't avoid killing with banning weapons but you can reduce it. If I >>> need a weapon I call for police or security. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Darin Steffl >>> >>> Minnesota WiFi >>> >>> www.mnwifi.com >>> >>> 507-634-WiFi >>> >>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>> computer viruses. >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>> computer viruses. >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>> computer viruses. >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>> computer viruses. >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> >>> > > > -- > Lewis Bergman > 325-439-0533 Cell > -- Lewis Bergman 325-439-0533 Cell
