That is a golden sales and marketing rule. Always have 3 plans, and 80% of the people will pick the middle option... then 10% on the top and 10% on the bottom.

Travis


On 10/16/2015 11:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Maybe so you can tell your wife “see honey, I didn’t get the fastest plan they offered, I compromised to save money”. Given 3 choices, you always pick the one in the middle. Pick the silver, not the bronze or gold plan. One thing I worry about is the content providers may be pushing for a world where they don’t have to worry about how fast the customer’s connection is, the sky’s the limit. I suspect some video streams that only need 2.5 or 5 Mbps, will stall and sputter unless the customer’s Internet connection is 20 or 50 Mbps because they burst the data and go all wonky if those bursts get a haircut in transit. And to the customer, it’s an ISP problem. Yet if we try to shape the video traffic to prevent this, we risk violating Open Internet rules by treating some content differently. So what everyone expects is for us to provide an infinite pipe so customers and content providers can use it however they want.
*From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net
*Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2015 11:40 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH
My question is, who is running around complaining that their 1 Gbps Internet sucks? "Oh my god! My Internet is SO SLOW! Someone needs to give me 10Gbps!" On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    I would like to see these hippie google bastards tooling around in
    east st louis, Alphabet would have to generate a body armor company
    On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:42 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

        East St. Louis...

        -----Original Message----- From: Ken Hohhof
        Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:33 AM
        To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH

        This is the New Economy, we don't need no stinkin' profits.
        
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/shinal/2015/10/15/square-ipo-filing-shows-fast-growth-consistent-losses/73985492/

        And in the case of Google Fiber, how would we know if it was
        profitable?
        Unless Alphabet intends to split off companies to stand on
        their own.

        I do find it interesting that everyone focuses on the last
        mile bandwidth,
        as if that's the whole story.  At least with business service,
        you don't
        have the ridiculous scenario of someone running their 10 Gbps
        residential
        Internet into an AC3200 router and doing speedtests on their
        iPad.  But if
        they sell 10 Gbps business service at lower than datacenter
        bandwidth
        pricing, what happens if businesses start actually using it
        like DIA or
        datacenter bandwidth?  Like someone decides to sell cloud
        gaming or
        streaming video or some business model that involves hundreds
        of screens
        streaming 4K video?  Maybe some real time medical imaging
        application.

        And all this gigabit activity in cities doesn't really prove
        much about less
        populated or economically distressed areas.  If Google's
        intent is to prove
        something, rather than cherry-pick, I'd still like to see them
        wire Detroit
or Newark. Not the wealthy suburbs or select "fiberhoods". Do the whole
        city and show how it sparks an urban revival.  Or go do a
        small rural town
        or a tribal reservation.


        -----Original Message----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com
        <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
        Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:20 AM
        To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH

        And, they are operating the system at a profit, right...?

        -----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson
        Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:52 AM
        To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        Subject: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH

        Does Google know they are getting out played by a small city? :)

        
http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/10/10gbps-internet-offered-by-city-fighting-anti-muni-broadband-laws/

        Travis





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