I am seeing a very fine lite to get away from the stupid Mbs or bytes or
Bits or what ever the F#$% binary calc of package rate means or is.
This is what the general dumb non tech give a shit public has become
used to. All they know is 10 is better than 1 and 100 is better so give
Joe smoe a 10Gbs and the neighbor a 100mbs
and neither would be able to tell the difference other than price so joe
smoe switches to 100mbs so who wins, DOH!
I saw a really neat idea that a company did at wispa to completely
wipe away the Mbs and bs numbers assc with packages using Valued
streaming as the term to define their packages
and explain clearly what kind of experience and how many devices can
support this experience at one time on the connection.
To me that is the way to go until some other stupid crap that cant be
explained with a crayon comes along.
Maybe put in fine print what the actual cap for capacity is.(not for UBB)
thats my meh! cents worth
On 10/16/2015 8:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Sterling, this is a constant struggle for any active-ethernet based
real 1 Gbps ISP... It's in the top five issues that the frontline
tech support people deal with. People with old/shitty/misconfigured
wireless routers who don't understand that their connection to their
device (within their home) is going to be slower over wireless than
the 1000BaseT that is delivered to the WAN interface of their router.
I have seen this problem significantly ameliorated by offering $10/mo
router rental of a fairly high end ($200) 802.11ac dual band 3x3 MIMO
router. Reduces the headache for the people answering the tech support
line.
It has become standard practice for the installation techs to take
screenshots (via 1000BaseT connection hardwired directly into their
Thinkpad laptop) at the time of installation to verify that the
connection really is working at >850Mbps. This is usually done in
front of the customer and shown to them at the time of install before
the tech departs the premises.
Now if people still want to moan and complain after all that, thanks
to their ignorance, there's not a lot more that can be done.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Sterling Jacobson
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I just had a customer on our 1Gbps service keep complaining that
his wireless was only 250Mbps on his iPhone.
He was asking why he even bothers paying $70 for 1000Mbps when he
only sees 100-250Mbps.
This guy has an netgear router that isn’t even connected to
anything. It’s all wireless.
I went over, plugged in my Surface to his Netgear and showed him
950Mbps up and down on speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net>.
Still didn’t get it.
Said we were falsely advertising “Up to 1000Mbps” on our web site
because it never gets to 1000Mbps.
I wanted to shoot myself at that point.
Fortunately, I don’t get many of these people.
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2015 10:41 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH
My question is, who is running around complaining that their 1
Gbps Internet sucks? "Oh my god! My Internet is SO SLOW! Someone
needs to give me 10Gbps!"
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I would like to see these hippie google bastards tooling
around in east st louis, Alphabet would have to generate a
body armor company
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:42 AM, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
East St. Louis...
-----Original Message----- From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:33 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH
This is the New Economy, we don't need no stinkin' profits.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/shinal/2015/10/15/square-ipo-filing-shows-fast-growth-consistent-losses/73985492/
And in the case of Google Fiber, how would we know if it
was profitable?
Unless Alphabet intends to split off companies to stand on
their own.
I do find it interesting that everyone focuses on the last
mile bandwidth,
as if that's the whole story. At least with business
service, you don't
have the ridiculous scenario of someone running their 10
Gbps residential
Internet into an AC3200 router and doing speedtests on
their iPad. But if
they sell 10 Gbps business service at lower than
datacenter bandwidth
pricing, what happens if businesses start actually using
it like DIA or
datacenter bandwidth? Like someone decides to sell cloud
gaming or
streaming video or some business model that involves
hundreds of screens
streaming 4K video? Maybe some real time medical imaging
application.
And all this gigabit activity in cities doesn't really
prove much about less
populated or economically distressed areas. If Google's
intent is to prove
something, rather than cherry-pick, I'd still like to see
them wire Detroit
or Newark. Not the wealthy suburbs or select
"fiberhoods". Do the whole
city and show how it sparks an urban revival. Or go do a
small rural town
or a tribal reservation.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:20 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH
And, they are operating the system at a profit, right...?
-----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:52 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH
Does Google know they are getting out played by a small
city? :)
http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/10/10gbps-internet-offered-by-city-fighting-anti-muni-broadband-laws/
Travis
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