That worked for us. We did a lot of measuring a couple years ago and saved a lot of marketing time cutting straight to the "how are you going to use it" and seek then what they needed for that. We hang discussed speeds. In fact, we got away from ,5,10,15Mbs type packages and instead they matched what the use case was. I gunk one was 13. None were even numbers because we never discussed it with them unless they specifically asked.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015, 9:13 PM David Milholen <[email protected]> wrote: > I am seeing a very fine lite to get away from the stupid Mbs or bytes or > Bits or what ever the F#$% binary calc of package rate means or is. > This is what the general dumb non tech give a shit public has become used > to. All they know is 10 is better than 1 and 100 is better so give Joe smoe > a 10Gbs and the neighbor a 100mbs > and neither would be able to tell the difference other than price so joe > smoe switches to 100mbs so who wins, DOH! > > I saw a really neat idea that a company did at wispa to completely wipe > away the Mbs and bs numbers assc with packages using Valued streaming as > the term to define their packages > and explain clearly what kind of experience and how many devices can > support this experience at one time on the connection. > To me that is the way to go until some other stupid crap that cant be > explained with a crayon comes along. > Maybe put in fine print what the actual cap for capacity is.(not for UBB) > > thats my meh! cents worth > > > > > On 10/16/2015 8:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > Sterling, this is a constant struggle for any active-ethernet based real 1 > Gbps ISP... It's in the top five issues that the frontline tech support > people deal with. People with old/shitty/misconfigured wireless routers who > don't understand that their connection to their device (within their home) > is going to be slower over wireless than the 1000BaseT that is delivered to > the WAN interface of their router. > > I have seen this problem significantly ameliorated by offering $10/mo > router rental of a fairly high end ($200) 802.11ac dual band 3x3 MIMO > router. Reduces the headache for the people answering the tech support > line. > > It has become standard practice for the installation techs to take > screenshots (via 1000BaseT connection hardwired directly into their > Thinkpad laptop) at the time of installation to verify that the connection > really is working at >850Mbps. This is usually done in front of the > customer and shown to them at the time of install before the tech departs > the premises. > > Now if people still want to moan and complain after all that, thanks to > their ignorance, there's not a lot more that can be done. > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I just had a customer on our 1Gbps service keep complaining that his >> wireless was only 250Mbps on his iPhone. >> >> >> >> He was asking why he even bothers paying $70 for 1000Mbps when he only >> sees 100-250Mbps. >> >> >> >> This guy has an netgear router that isn’t even connected to anything. >> It’s all wireless. >> >> I went over, plugged in my Surface to his Netgear and showed him 950Mbps >> up and down on speedtest.net. >> >> >> >> Still didn’t get it. >> >> >> >> Said we were falsely advertising “Up to 1000Mbps” on our web site because >> it never gets to 1000Mbps. >> >> >> >> I wanted to shoot myself at that point. >> >> >> >> Fortunately, I don’t get many of these people. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of * >> [email protected] >> *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2015 10:41 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH >> >> >> >> My question is, who is running around complaining that their 1 Gbps >> Internet sucks? "Oh my god! My Internet is SO SLOW! Someone needs to give >> me 10Gbps!" >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I would like to see these hippie google bastards tooling around in east >> st louis, Alphabet would have to generate a body armor company >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:42 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> East St. Louis... >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Ken Hohhof >> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:33 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH >> >> This is the New Economy, we don't need no stinkin' profits. >> >> http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/shinal/2015/10/15/square-ipo-filing-shows-fast-growth-consistent-losses/73985492/ >> >> And in the case of Google Fiber, how would we know if it was profitable? >> Unless Alphabet intends to split off companies to stand on their own. >> >> I do find it interesting that everyone focuses on the last mile bandwidth, >> as if that's the whole story. At least with business service, you don't >> have the ridiculous scenario of someone running their 10 Gbps residential >> Internet into an AC3200 router and doing speedtests on their iPad. But if >> they sell 10 Gbps business service at lower than datacenter bandwidth >> pricing, what happens if businesses start actually using it like DIA or >> datacenter bandwidth? Like someone decides to sell cloud gaming or >> streaming video or some business model that involves hundreds of screens >> streaming 4K video? Maybe some real time medical imaging application. >> >> And all this gigabit activity in cities doesn't really prove much about >> less >> populated or economically distressed areas. If Google's intent is to >> prove >> something, rather than cherry-pick, I'd still like to see them wire >> Detroit >> or Newark. Not the wealthy suburbs or select "fiberhoods". Do the whole >> city and show how it sparks an urban revival. Or go do a small rural town >> or a tribal reservation. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] >> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:20 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH >> >> And, they are operating the system at a profit, right...? >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson >> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:52 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [AFMUG] 10Gbps FTTH >> >> Does Google know they are getting out played by a small city? :) >> >> >> http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/10/10gbps-internet-offered-by-city-fighting-anti-muni-broadband-laws/ >> >> Travis >> >> >> >> -- >> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >> >> > > -- >
