You describe the main reason I own one. I work from home, and not far from a janky area and what you describe is a potential problem. I don’t carry though. I also have a large, scary dog.
- Patrick From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy and why I regularly carry my KelTec P3AT, looks like a cell phone in my pocket. It doesn't have a safety, but I don't carry it with a round chambered. I'm in a pretty rural farming area, and there are a lot of migrant workers. With that has brought more burglary type of crime. The standard to do is go knock on all the doors. If nobody answers, they break in. My office is in the front of my house, and I have had this encounter 4 times since living there about 9 years. The last 2 times I have walked out gun in hand. It's interesting, they only turn around and don't even get out of the car. I know what they are there for and so do they. I also have cameras all over my property, so I know when people come and go. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net<mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote: It's not a US thing... http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107<tel:417.851.1107> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:42:11 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy and why Sometimes I just like stirring the pot ;) I'm not saying one way is better or worse. BUT our current system obviously seems to be failing because we are the only 1st world country with a mass shooting problem of this magnitude. -Sean On Monday, December 7, 2015, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote: > So then you'll take your guns to the police or sheriff and tell them you > don't need them anymore? > > On 12/7/2015 9:43 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > Australia had a gun problem...until it didn't anymore. > > Just sayin > > -Sean > > > On Monday, December 7, 2015, Chuck McCown < > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>');>ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>');>> > wrote: > >> On the assault rifle issue, are we just arguing about magazine size? >> >> Or does it need a handle on top and a pistol grip? >> How does a BAR differ from an AR? Assuming they are the same caliber. >> BAR is OK because it only shoots deer, but the AR is for shooting people? >> Wood stock good, green metal and plastic bad? >> >> Semi automatic deer hunting rifles are OK, right? >> >> Is this a distinction without a difference? >> >> *From:* Sean Heskett >> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 3:31 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy >> and why >> >> i have a Glock23 .40cal works great but it's not quite a "conceal carry" >> size. I have it (unloaded and trigger locked) in my survival pack that >> stays in my airplane incase of an emergency landing in the back country ;-) >> >> i'm also a Progressive Libtard (registered independent) that thinks we >> should ban assault rifles and large magazines just as we have banned hand >> grenades, bombs, rocket launchers and other military style/grade weapons. >> I've had my Hunter's safety card since I was 12 and I also went to high >> school next to Columbine in CO. My younger sister had friends who died in >> the attack. >> >> 2 cents. >> >> -Sean >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:01 PM, James Howard >> <ja...@litewire.net<mailto:ja...@litewire.net> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ja...@litewire.net<mailto:ja...@litewire.net>');>> >> wrote: >> >>> It wasn’t just the backstrap that bothered me. Mostly the diamond >>> pattern just didn’t feel good in my hands. I just did a bit of looking now >>> though and it looks like there are some options for fixing that. I might >>> have to look into them again. I really like the Sig P938 so far though. >>> >>> >>> >>> I missed your comment about Glock fanboys. Shocking we haven’t had any >>> so far but the thread devolved into politics from a simple question of what >>> brand/model of pistol we like. For the record, I’ve yet to meet a Glock >>> that I’d want to own. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 11:08 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>');> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy >>> and why >>> >>> >>> >>> XDS has replaceable grip backstraps. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:04 AM, James Howard >>> <ja...@litewire.net<mailto:ja...@litewire.net> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ja...@litewire.net<mailto:ja...@litewire.net>');>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sig P938 is 9mm and almost exactly the same size as a P238. I’ve got >>> the SAS model (anti snag). I’ve also got a S&W M&P Shield in 9mm and have >>> looked at the Springfield XDS many times. I just can’t get over the fact >>> that I don’t like the grips on the XDS. Prime reason to go with the XDS is >>> that you can get it in 45ACP. There are a lot of cheaper brands out there >>> too. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you have a place where you can do it, go and test fire all the >>> different options. My father-in-law bought a Glock 36 because several >>> people told him how great they were. The problem is that it doesn’t fit >>> his hand well at all and the trigger digs into his finger so he shoots >>> terrible with it. His accuracy is greatly improved using my M&P Shield. >>> >>> >>> >>> No matter what you get though. A major key to carrying it safely is >>> practice and being comfortable with it. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>');>] >>> *On Behalf Of *Simon >>> Westlake >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 10:09 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>');> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy >>> and why >>> >>> >>> >>> That was one thing I forgot to mention with the P238.. it has a manual >>> safety as well, if that's important to you. I personally don't really care, >>> but it's another good point. >>> >>> On 12/7/2015 10:07 AM, Jeremy wrote: >>> >>> A lot of people are carrying a gun that has no safety. The safety is >>> released by squeezing the trigger, essentially. 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