Yeezus is an abomination. Cheesewiz, now there is a worthy saviour On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> Or Yeezus? > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:07 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - which religion should I join (was which gun > toby)... > > jebus and only jebus > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> <grin> >> >> *From:* Paul McCall <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2015 1:59 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy >> and why >> >> >> The conversation was me asking for what type of guns people preferred for >> CCW J - the title reads “which to buy and why” >> >> >> >> Seemed like a reasonable thing to ask of people I respect >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Leary >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:01 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy >> and why >> >> >> >> “. But in retrospect I see what your original statement was, and you are >> correct, it is, in fact pathetic that this conversation needs to take >> place. We are not a civil society, its pathetic we are arrogant enough to >> kid ourselves about that.” >> >> >> >> Bingo. Thank you for your reading comprehension. Others read it and came >> claiming I called members pathetic, which is not possibly a correct >> interpretation given the simple and unambiguous sentence I wrote. >> Comprehension is a problem in this country. As I make clear to my kids, >> calling an action they may do “foolish” or “dumb,” is not even remotely the >> same as calling them foolish or dumb. I find it distressing that adults >> confuse the difference. >> >> >> >> As well, maybe some read the word “pathetic,” but have no sense of its >> authentic definition, instead thinking it a personal insult, akin to >> calling another a “loser!” >> >> >> >> pa·thet·ic >> >> pəˈTHedik/ >> >> *adjective* >> >> adjective: *pathetic* >> >> 1. *1*. >> >> arousing pity, especially through vulnerability or sadness. >> >> "she looked so pathetic that I bent down to comfort her" >> >> synonyms: >> >> pitiful >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+pitiful&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIHTAA>, >> pitiable >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+pitiable&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIHjAA>, >> piteous >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+piteous&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIHzAA>, >> moving >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+moving&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIIDAA>, >> touching >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+touching&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIITAA>, >> poignant >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+poignant&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIIjAA>, >> plaintive >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+plaintive&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIIzAA>, >> distressing >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+distressing&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIJDAA>, >> upsetting, heartbreaking >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+heartbreaking&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIJTAA>, >> heart-rending >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+heart-rending&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIJjAA>, >> harrowing >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+harrowing&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIJzAA>, >> wretched >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+wretched&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIKDAA>, >> forlorn >> <https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&biw=1536&bih=722&q=define+forlorn&ved=0ahUKEwjqqJzuhc3JAhXHPiYKHRITA8sQ_SoIKTAA> >> >> "a pathetic groan" >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> - Patrick >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2015 2:23 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy >> and why >> >> >> >> Why am I getting left out? >> >> >> >> I have no doubt the majority of people would not perform as heroically as >> they anticipate they would. But better to fail than be a victim. With that, >> however should come a great deal of responsibility, first and foremost, you >> are responsible for your own actions. If you try to be a hero, and you >> shoot a bystander, be prepared for the consequence. If you try to be a >> hero, and you are shot by a responding professional, that is also a >> consequence of being a shooter in an active shooter situation. >> >> >> >> I would venture a guess there are alot of shootings that happen where a >> CCW holder was present that you dont hear about because when push came to >> shove, they stayed holstered and fled, as it should be. But once again, >> better to have the option to defend and choose not to use it than to have >> no option aside from being a victim. >> >> >> >> The US has too many vague interpretations of freedom, that is why it is >> so dangerous here. You could arm every person with a howitzer and a sword, >> it would be no more dangerous. Our criminals are entitled punks. They know >> that our prison systems are not gulags or work camps, The expenditures from >> our correctional systems on entertainment alone is astounding, and we no >> longer offer reform or re-education, our sentencing guidelines are such >> that it is a better gamble to shoot first than leave witnesses. >> >> >> >> We have an abused welfare system that has become a generational lifestyle >> and are not allowed to empower those who live in it for fear of >> repercussions of some form of discrimination. We have systems in place to >> specifically train those most at risk for criminality to hate those who >> succeed as being thieves of entitlements. Those at risk are further chained >> by inherent beliefs within their communities that trying to change for the >> better is selling out from what is real. >> >> >> >> Then, we have the lunatics, whos actions are treated as common, when in >> reality they are so few and far between they barely even account for any >> measurable component of the criminality in this country. Lunatics, you >> truly can do little for, whether it be lunacy in ones religion or political >> beliefs, or just fucking nuts, they will do what they do when they do it >> without any warning that doesnt require hindsight. Mass shootings should >> be the least of anyone's concern. We have yet to have a mass shooting in >> the country that beats the average week in our major cities. >> >> >> >> Whether something is listed as terrorism, mental illness, or a hate crime >> is what our country focuses on, not what the underlying issue is that >> brings it out, criminality. >> >> >> >> Between the overbearing reach of our federal, state and local government >> into our personal lives and the lack of any actual meaningful approach to >> limit, hinder, or avoid criminality in the United States, there really is >> no limit to the need for bigger, better, faster, more firepower among the >> general population. Because at the end of the day the United State is a >> selfish nation, and no matter how much cuckolding to the government we >> portray, or communal love for our fellow man we present, it is in reality >> every man for himself here, and dont let anyone ever fool you about that. >> >> >> >> So really, given what the United States really is, and not what we >> present, it is irresponsible to not be prepared. But in retrospect I see >> what your original statement was, and you are correct, it is, in fact >> pathetic that this conversation needs to take place. We are not a civil >> society, its pathetic we are arrogant enough to kid ourselves about that. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Patrick Leary <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> You describe the main reason I own one. I work from home, and not far >> from a janky area and what you describe is a potential problem. I don’t >> carry though. I also have a large, scary dog. >> >> >> >> - Patrick >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:33 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy >> and why >> >> >> >> I regularly carry my KelTec P3AT, looks like a cell phone in my pocket. >> It doesn't have a safety, but I don't carry it with a round chambered. I'm >> in a pretty rural farming area, and there are a lot of migrant workers. >> With that has brought more burglary type of crime. The standard to do is >> go knock on all the doors. If nobody answers, they break in. My office is >> in the front of my house, and I have had this encounter 4 times since >> living there about 9 years. The last 2 times I have walked out gun in >> hand. It's interesting, they only turn around and don't even get out of >> the car. I know what they are there for and so do they. I also have >> cameras all over my property, so I know when people come and go. >> >> >> Regards, >> Chuck >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Christopher Tyler < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> It's not a US thing... >> >> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html >> >> -- >> Christopher Tyler >> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >> Total Highspeed Internet Services >> 417.851.1107 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:42:11 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy and >> why >> >> Sometimes I just like stirring the pot ;) >> >> I'm not saying one way is better or worse. BUT our current system >> obviously seems to be failing because we are the only 1st world country >> with a mass shooting problem of this magnitude. >> >> -Sean >> >> On Monday, December 7, 2015, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > So then you'll take your guns to the police or sheriff and tell them you >> > don't need them anymore? >> > >> > On 12/7/2015 9:43 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: >> > >> > Australia had a gun problem...until it didn't anymore. >> > >> > Just sayin >> > >> > -Sean >> > >> > >> > On Monday, December 7, 2015, Chuck McCown < >> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> > >> >> On the assault rifle issue, are we just arguing about magazine size? >> >> >> >> Or does it need a handle on top and a pistol grip? >> >> How does a BAR differ from an AR? Assuming they are the same caliber. >> >> BAR is OK because it only shoots deer, but the AR is for shooting >> people? >> >> Wood stock good, green metal and plastic bad? >> >> >> >> Semi automatic deer hunting rifles are OK, right? >> >> >> >> Is this a distinction without a difference? >> >> >> >> *From:* Sean Heskett >> >> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 3:31 PM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy >> >> and why >> >> >> >> i have a Glock23 .40cal works great but it's not quite a "conceal >> carry" >> >> size. I have it (unloaded and trigger locked) in my survival pack that >> >> stays in my airplane incase of an emergency landing in the back >> country ;-) >> >> >> >> i'm also a Progressive Libtard (registered independent) that thinks we >> >> should ban assault rifles and large magazines just as we have banned >> hand >> >> grenades, bombs, rocket launchers and other military style/grade >> weapons. >> >> I've had my Hunter's safety card since I was 12 and I also went to high >> >> school next to Columbine in CO. My younger sister had friends who >> died in >> >> the attack. >> >> >> >> 2 cents. >> >> >> >> -Sean >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:01 PM, James Howard <[email protected] >> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> It wasn’t just the backstrap that bothered me. Mostly the diamond >> >>> pattern just didn’t feel good in my hands. I just did a bit of >> looking now >> >>> though and it looks like there are some options for fixing that. I >> might >> >>> have to look into them again. I really like the Sig P938 so far >> though. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I missed your comment about Glock fanboys. Shocking we haven’t had >> any >> >>> so far but the thread devolved into politics from a simple question >> of what >> >>> brand/model of pistol we like. For the record, I’ve yet to meet a >> Glock >> >>> that I’d want to own. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >> >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 11:08 AM >> >>> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy >> >>> and why >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> XDS has replaceable grip backstraps. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:04 AM, James Howard <[email protected] >> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Sig P938 is 9mm and almost exactly the same size as a P238. I’ve got >> >>> the SAS model (anti snag). I’ve also got a S&W M&P Shield in 9mm and >> have >> >>> looked at the Springfield XDS many times. I just can’t get over the >> fact >> >>> that I don’t like the grips on the XDS. Prime reason to go with the >> XDS is >> >>> that you can get it in 45ACP. There are a lot of cheaper brands out >> there >> >>> too. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> If you have a place where you can do it, go and test fire all the >> >>> different options. My father-in-law bought a Glock 36 because several >> >>> people told him how great they were. The problem is that it doesn’t >> fit >> >>> his hand well at all and the trigger digs into his finger so he shoots >> >>> terrible with it. His accuracy is greatly improved using my M&P >> Shield. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> No matter what you get though. A major key to carrying it safely is >> >>> practice and being comfortable with it. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] >> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf >> Of *Simon >> >>> Westlake >> >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 10:09 AM >> >>> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy >> >>> and why >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> That was one thing I forgot to mention with the P238.. it has a manual >> >>> safety as well, if that's important to you. I personally don't really >> care, >> >>> but it's another good point. >> >>> >> >>> On 12/7/2015 10:07 AM, Jeremy wrote: >> >>> >> >>> A lot of people are carrying a gun that has no safety. The safety is >> >>> released by squeezing the trigger, essentially. I have kids, and >> although >> >>> I plan to keep my gun far away from them, I cannot on a clear >> conscience >> >>> carry a gun with no safety. I have been considering a revolver. My >> bro >> >>> has a CC and he recommends something smaller, so it doesn't jab you >> in the >> >>> side whenever you sit down. I am still looking for the right gun for >> a >> >>> CC. I've already had a gun pulled on my at a job. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Paul McCall <[email protected] >> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I am getting my CC permit (Florida) in a week or so. 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