They certainly aren't about protecting anybody from anything because then they 
would also outlaw radios, sandwiches and pretty ladies in short skirts walking 
down the street. 

Then there's the assumption that all situations and all drivers in them are the 
same. Driving down a straight empty two lane paved and striped road is 
different than a rush hour slalom of a road. 




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From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:01:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Snow gone..moving east 


Lots of cripples and dead folks thanks to distracted driving, Worse than drunk 
driving. I come from a family of EMT/Paramedic/Firefighters so I have the 
gritty details of the consequences of distracted driving, not just the family 
friendly newspaper accounts, I watched and held the hand of a 6 yo old girl as 
she declined from fully awake and alert, to vomitting, to progessive loss of 
mental faculty and finally coma from a motor vehicle accident head injury, 
thankfully the helicopter took her away to die. Distracted driving laws are not 
about generating revenue. 


But as far as US drivers go, definitely some serious variance in capability, I 
was running 60-70 yesterday all day, because im capable and can react. when we 
have really bad weather, black ice in particular, Im mor inclined to take my 2 
wheel drive minivan on country roads to stay off the main roads where the 
idiots are, you get the 4wd guys that think theyre invincible, they tend to end 
up on their top after hammering some minivan into a ditch, or the people 
running 20 on an interstate who wonder why they get ass ended. Probably is best 
to just let me review all drivers before they can get on the road 


On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 




I am against the distracted driving laws altogether. It's a revenue generator 
more than anything else. 




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From: "Lewis Bergman" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:19:45 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Snow gone..moving east 


Young and elderly drivers should have more frequent testing. In general, I 
cannot imagine what a bit tougher driving standard tests would hurt. I am 
normally not in favor of the government's involvement in anything but the whole 
cell phone while driving thing has been out of hand for a while. Maybe phones 
should be disabled while in motion. I use my hands free bluetooth stuff but to 
be honest, I know I am not as attentive while talking on it even though I am 
not looking at it. 


On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 8:11 AM Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote: 

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I just wish if they are going to crash, that they don’t take down a utility 
pole. People, those are not emergency car stopping devices! 

Sorry, I still have 2 major towers on portable generators. 





From: Daniel White 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:00 AM 






To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Snow gone..moving east 





* rant * 

I’m convinced most American’s can’t drive period. I travel all over this 
country… and I am consistently enraged. New York City area was the only place 
where people seemed to know what they were doing. Things are so frantic, if 
you’re not paying close attention, you’re going to get in an accident. 

I’m actually in favor of making getting a driver’s license much more difficult. 
People in Europe are better drivers on the average in my experience (Latvia and 
Germany). Annual car inspections (broken windshield, balding tires… that car is 
taken off the road). Forced drivers education. 

I love in Europe… if you take your driver’s test with an automatic transmission 
you’re not allowed to drive a manual (most American’s can’t anyways…). 

* /rant * 

Thank you, 

Daniel White 
[email protected] 
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 
Skype: danieldwhite 
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From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 11:43 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Snow gone..moving east 







Just moved to MO from Alaska. Can confirm, nobody here knows how to drive. 
Cruise control obviously hasn't been invented yet, and if you want to pass a 
single semi, be prepared for the guy in front of you to swerve into the passing 
lane without using a turn signal just so he can pace the semi for a good 20 
miles. 






Rain or snow or shine, MO drivers are consistently horrible all year long :( 

On Dec 29, 2015 12:30 AM, "George Skorup" < [email protected] > wrote: 


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My boss is on a road trip from home to Houston to LA. He left Houston and 
wanted to go through Amarillo. He said he was surprised to see all of the 
vehicles in the ditches. Then he figured out why. He was doing 80MPH and you 
Texans were flying past him. See, in Illinois, you probably won't get pulled 
over by the state police for doing 10 over, so that's what we all do. Unless 
you're swerving or something stupid. I usually do the speed limit, sometimes 5 
or 10 over if there isn't a lot of traffic. And troopers just zoom past doing 
like 90. How nice that the law doesn't have to obey the law. 

So as I'm heading to the office today (normally 20 minute drive which took 40), 
I get on the highway and people are doing like 35-40. By this time it's mostly 
raining and the slushy stuff is pretty much gone. People, if you can't drive in 
shitty Chicago weather, then stay off the road or at the very least move the 
hell over. To piss me off further, what comes on the radio? I can't drive 55. 
You gotta be kidding me. I see lots of Missouri plates on I-55. You guys like 
to go way, way over the speed limit when the weather is decent and then drive 
like old folks if it's even a little cloudy. So I think you should stay in MO 
cuz your driving really pisses me off. Probably you downstater's too, stay down 
there. I saw one car in the ditch, flipped over I might add, and the plate was 
Tennessee. So you guys too. 

Sorry, I had a bad day. 

On 12/28/2015 11:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
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Ouch! 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Dec 28, 2015 11:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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My back yard with fallen tree... or free firewood for friends and family.. 

On Dec 28, 2015 9:22 PM, "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Is that snow real??? Aren't you by the border? 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Dec 28, 2015 11:16 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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We had record snowfall for two days...much of it melted by afternoon... I did 
get a snowman pic from son 

On Dec 28, 2015 9:07 PM, "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Low 40s in Ohio. Feels good to be getting some generous winter days. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Dec 28, 2015 11:05 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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We are hitting low 20s ...black ice!!! I know it's cold in Abilene but not sure 
if Lewis is making a snowman tomorrow... 


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