God heard me say, don’t burn his house...

From: Ty Featherling 
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:05 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies

I'm not saying I don't need a house burned down. ;) 

-Ty



-Ty

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected]> wrote:

  you need a house burned down? because what im hearing here is you need a 
house burned down.

  On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Ty Featherling <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    True. Part 101 is like Part 15 in that regard. 

    -Ty




    -Ty

    On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Hardy, Tim <[email protected]> wrote:

      A part 101 license (other than area-wide licenses or bands that were 
auctioned) does not grant “exclusive use” of a frequency at a location.



      From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
      Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 11:32 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies



      When did they go up there?  Was it before U-NII-1 was opened up?  Maybe 
you can argue that is a separate band, since it wasn’t even available when they 
located there.



      It is common for a lease to specify exclusivity on that tower for certain 
unlicensed bands, or to contain a non-interference clause.  Apparently the 
lease doesn’t specify.  Probably the city won’t want to get involved, that’s 
why it’s easiest for a site owner to only allow one unlicensed tenant, or one 
per band, they don’t want to play Judge Judy in a technical area they know 
nothing about.



      Maybe show the city a copy of one of your Part 101 licenses showing you 
have exclusive use of that frequency at those locations.  Or borrow a 2-way 
license from somebody in the area and show the city a copy.  Or find a cellular 
or paging company that is on a city structure, look up and make a copy of their 
FCC license.  Tell the city this is the paperwork someone will have if the FCC 
has granted them exclusive use of spectrum, and of course the other tenant will 
not have anything of the kind to show.  Maybe then turn their WiFi router 
upside down and show them the Part 15 sticker so they can understand this is 
exactly the same rules you and the other tenant are operating under.  It would 
be like saying you can’t use WiFi because your next door neighbor had WiFi 
first.



      That’s not how unlicensed works.  That’s not how any of this works.





      From: Jaime Solorza 

      Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:14 AM

      To: Animal Farm 

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies



      The basic part 15 rule says it all

      On Feb 26, 2016 9:13 AM, "Ty Featherling" <[email protected]> wrote:

      We have a co-tennant on a water tower saying that since they were there 
first, they get exclusive use of the entire 5GHz unlicensed band. There lease 
warrants no such thing and we told the the FCC doesn't either. Is there a plain 
english "for dummies" explanation of Part 15, specifically regarding 
interference and co-location? The city is involved and we need to make this 
stupid easy to understand.






      -Ty






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