I've scratched Jimmy Fallon off my list because he takes too much time away from my AF list...

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On 2/26/2016 10:23 AM, Glen Waldrop wrote:
These are the true gems of this list.

There is a lot of technical knowledge to be found here, but the entertainment value is priceless.

*From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 12:18 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
I soo had the urge to post a couple GPS coordinates...
*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:37 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
im just sayin, if there was a house, and im not sayin there is, and it burned down, and im not sayin it will, there should probably be, say a gps coordinate, or street address of a house that nobody wants to see burned down. sometimes things happen. I stepped on a nail last night, somebodies house might burn down, a tree might fall in the forest, some things are just outside our control. On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    God heard me say, don’t burn his house...
    *From:* Ty Featherling <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:05 AM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
    I'm not saying I don't need a house burned down. ;)
    -Ty
    -Ty
    On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        you need a house burned down? because what im hearing here is
        you need a house burned down.
        On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Ty Featherling
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            True. Part 101 is like Part 15 in that regard.
            -Ty

            -Ty
            On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Hardy, Tim
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                A part 101 license (other than area-wide licenses or
                bands that were auctioned) does not grant “exclusive
                use” of a frequency at a location.

                *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
                *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 11:32 AM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies

                When did they go up there?  Was it before U-NII-1 was
                opened up?  Maybe you can argue that is a separate
                band, since it wasn’t even available when they located
                there.

                It is common for a lease to specify exclusivity on
                that tower for certain unlicensed bands, or to contain
                a non-interference clause. Apparently the lease
                doesn’t specify. Probably the city won’t want to get
                involved, that’s why it’s easiest for a site owner to
                only allow one unlicensed tenant, or one per band,
                they don’t want to play Judge Judy in a technical area
                they know nothing about.

                Maybe show the city a copy of one of your Part 101
                licenses showing you have exclusive use of that
                frequency at those locations.  Or borrow a 2-way
                license from somebody in the area and show the city a
                copy.  Or find a cellular or paging company that is on
                a city structure, look up and make a copy of their FCC
                license.  Tell the city this is the paperwork someone
                will have if the FCC has granted them exclusive use of
                spectrum, and of course the other tenant will not have
                anything of the kind to show.  Maybe then turn their
                WiFi router upside down and show them the Part 15
                sticker so they can understand this is exactly the
                same rules you and the other tenant are operating
                under.  It would be like saying you can’t use WiFi
                because your next door neighbor had WiFi first.

                That’s not how unlicensed works.  That’s not how any
                of this works.

                *From:*Jaime Solorza <mailto:[email protected]>

                *Sent:*Friday, February 26, 2016 10:14 AM

                *To:*Animal Farm <mailto:[email protected]>

                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies

                The basic part 15 rule says it all

                On Feb 26, 2016 9:13 AM, "Ty Featherling"
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                We have a co-tennant on a water tower saying that
                since they were there first, they get exclusive use of
                the entire 5GHz unlicensed band. There lease warrants
                no such thing and we told the the FCC doesn't either.
                Is there a plain english "for dummies" explanation of
                Part 15, specifically regarding interference and
                co-location? The city is involved and we need to make
                this stupid easy to understand.

                -Ty



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