You can't burn that down...

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have no idea what this conversation is about.  No hablo ingles.
> (42.053588, -88.025691)
>
> On 2/26/2016 12:37 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> im just sayin, if there was a house, and im not sayin there is, and it
> burned down, and im not sayin it will, there should probably be, say a gps
> coordinate, or street address of a house that nobody wants to see burned
> down. sometimes things happen. I stepped on a nail last night, somebodies
> house might burn down, a tree might fall in the forest, some things are
> just outside our control.
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> God heard me say, don’t burn his house...
>>
>> *From:* Ty Featherling <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:05 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
>>
>> I'm not saying I don't need a house burned down. ;)
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> you need a house burned down? because what im hearing here is you need a
>>> house burned down.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Ty Featherling <
>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> True. Part 101 is like Part 15 in that regard.
>>>>
>>>> -Ty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Ty
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Hardy, Tim < <[email protected]>
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A part 101 license (other than area-wide licenses or bands that were
>>>>> auctioned) does not grant “exclusive use” of a frequency at a location.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto: <[email protected]>[email protected]] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 11:32 AM
>>>>> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When did they go up there?  Was it before U-NII-1 was opened up?
>>>>> Maybe you can argue that is a separate band, since it wasn’t even 
>>>>> available
>>>>> when they located there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is common for a lease to specify exclusivity on that tower for
>>>>> certain unlicensed bands, or to contain a non-interference clause.
>>>>> Apparently the lease doesn’t specify.  Probably the city won’t want to get
>>>>> involved, that’s why it’s easiest for a site owner to only allow one
>>>>> unlicensed tenant, or one per band, they don’t want to play Judge Judy in 
>>>>> a
>>>>> technical area they know nothing about.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe show the city a copy of one of your Part 101 licenses showing
>>>>> you have exclusive use of that frequency at those locations.  Or borrow a
>>>>> 2-way license from somebody in the area and show the city a copy.  Or find
>>>>> a cellular or paging company that is on a city structure, look up and make
>>>>> a copy of their FCC license.  Tell the city this is the paperwork someone
>>>>> will have if the FCC has granted them exclusive use of spectrum, and of
>>>>> course the other tenant will not have anything of the kind to show.  Maybe
>>>>> then turn their WiFi router upside down and show them the Part 15 sticker
>>>>> so they can understand this is exactly the same rules you and the other
>>>>> tenant are operating under.  It would be like saying you can’t use WiFi
>>>>> because your next door neighbor had WiFi first.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s not how unlicensed works.  That’s not how any of this works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:14 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The basic part 15 rule says it all
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 26, 2016 9:13 AM, "Ty Featherling" < <[email protected]>
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a co-tennant on a water tower saying that since they were
>>>>> there first, they get exclusive use of the entire 5GHz unlicensed band.
>>>>> There lease warrants no such thing and we told the the FCC doesn't either.
>>>>> Is there a plain english "for dummies" explanation of Part 15, 
>>>>> specifically
>>>>> regarding interference and co-location? The city is involved and we need 
>>>>> to
>>>>> make this stupid easy to understand.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ty
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
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