I *never* *ever* did that...........................
On 03/20/2016 02:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Funny, how many of us bought the cheapest Cisco thing we could find
and registered it so we could get fresh software for the grey market
more expensive routers we deployed.... hmmm????
*From:* Eric Kuhnke <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 2:50 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview
I really don't see the point of trying to prevent shipments of
telecom/IT/networking equipment to Iran, or punishing anybody for
selling telecom/IT/networking gear to Iran:
1) If people in Iran really want the stuff they will simply arrange a
way to buy it from Dubai.
2) Isn't it a good thing to ship any sort of computer/networking/ISP
gear into Iran? There's a very active community of Iranians who have
come up with local Farsi language documents/training guides and
information on how to run Tor, how to get around government internet
censorship, move VPN traffic through their ISPs' blackholes. Iranians
want to read unfettered media. The US government has a whole Farsi
language division funded from the Voice of America/BBG (Broadcasting
Board of Governors) that is trying to reach Iranians. There are a
shitload of Iranians that want to use Facebook, Whatsapp, Skype, etc.
More communication with the outside world is good.
http://www.radiofarda.com/
On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You are familiar with Cisco developing products to aid in China's
internet snooping and repression, right?
On Mar 20, 2016 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Recent article raises suspicions Huawei violated Iran sanctions.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/technology/zte-document-raises-questions-about-huawei-and-sanctions.html?_r=0
Although expecting Chinese companies to obey our sanctions
against Iran and not use tricks to get around them is probably
unrealistic. But it’s a little humorous reading how ZTE copied
the tricks of an unnamed company that is clearly Huawei.
*From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:44 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview
Some of it is bull, but the blatant duplication of Cisco is
indisputable.
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*From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Saturday, March 19, 2016 6:44:02 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview
Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees
China has by any chance? What about the number of DoD and
general federal workforce? Do those members of the workforce -
do their policies and beliefs fall 100% in line with things
the government as a whole says or does?
You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei
was bullshit put for by our government who were acting as
mouthpieces for Cisco which was later RECANTED by our own
government in just a few short years and then used in
FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right?
I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done
anything "bad" in your eyes... Since they have direct
connections to the CIA and NSA. They have an incredible amount
of data and control.
What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching
products mid shipment and modified them before sending them
out? What's that, the NSA was caught weakening encryption
protocols, the Linux kernel, and put backdoors in equipment
from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper - putting
our own countries citizens and world governments at risk in
the process?
I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they
haven't done shitty things in the past - my problem is you and
others are insinuating that every employee Huawei has ever had
is some kind of scumbag while simultaneously holding up a
different mirror to our own government and its employees.
For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective.
On Mar 19, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that
just having one of the lead people from Huawei is any
connection other than the obvious. This person could have
had issues with the company as well, and left as a result.
On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Rory Conaway
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it,
simple as that. Huawei is both a thief and an arm of
the Chinese government.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
*Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:03 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview
I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud
based EPC.... you can most likely buy your own
instead, but that seems to be one of the more costly
parts of doing LTE.
On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie
<[email protected]> wrote:
Good interview. A couple things I'm wondering /
concerned about though. First of all, what's with the
$1/month/CPE? I realize it isn't a ton of money, just
seems like an expense that shouldn't be there. Also,
I'm a little wary of the Huawei tie-in - although I
haven't researched the specific "fellow" that they're
talking about.
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett
<[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4
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