Define module? On Mar 20, 2016 6:56 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I’m not sure I equate “previously owned” with “grey market”. And if Cisco > had a problem with it, they didn’t have to sell you a Smartnet contract for > the used gear. Pretty good actually selling a full year HW/SW maintenance > contract just so you can upgrade the SW. > > What I won’t do is buy the “new” Cisco modules from Hong Kong that are > probably counterfeit. Even if they are made from the same parts in the > same factory. > > > *From:* Bruce Robertson <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:23 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > I *never* *ever* did that........................... > > On 03/20/2016 02:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Funny, how many of us bought the cheapest Cisco thing we could find and > registered it so we could get fresh software for the grey market more > expensive routers we deployed.... hmmm???? > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 2:50 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > I really don't see the point of trying to prevent shipments of > telecom/IT/networking equipment to Iran, or punishing anybody for selling > telecom/IT/networking gear to Iran: > > > 1) If people in Iran really want the stuff they will simply arrange a way > to buy it from Dubai. > > 2) Isn't it a good thing to ship any sort of computer/networking/ISP gear > into Iran? There's a very active community of Iranians who have come up > with local Farsi language documents/training guides and information on how > to run Tor, how to get around government internet censorship, move VPN > traffic through their ISPs' blackholes. Iranians want to read unfettered > media. The US government has a whole Farsi language division funded from > the Voice of America/BBG (Broadcasting Board of Governors) that is trying > to reach Iranians. There are a shitload of Iranians that want to use > Facebook, Whatsapp, Skype, etc. More communication with the outside world > is good. > > http://www.radiofarda.com/ > > > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> You are familiar with Cisco developing products to aid in China's >> internet snooping and repression, right? >> On Mar 20, 2016 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Recent article raises suspicions Huawei violated Iran sanctions. >>> >>> >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/technology/zte-document-raises-questions-about-huawei-and-sanctions.html?_r=0 >>> >>> Although expecting Chinese companies to obey our sanctions against Iran >>> and not use tricks to get around them is probably unrealistic. But it’s a >>> little humorous reading how ZTE copied the tricks of an unnamed company >>> that is clearly Huawei. >>> >>> >>> *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:44 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>> >>> Some of it is bull, but the blatant duplication of Cisco is indisputable. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Saturday, March 19, 2016 6:44:02 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>> >>> Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees China has >>> by any chance? What about the number of DoD and general federal workforce? >>> Do those members of the workforce - do their policies and beliefs fall 100% >>> in line with things the government as a whole says or does? >>> >>> You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei was >>> bullshit put for by our government who were acting as mouthpieces for Cisco >>> which was later RECANTED by our own government in just a few short years >>> and then used in FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right? >>> >>> I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done anything >>> "bad" in your eyes... Since they have direct connections to the CIA and >>> NSA. They have an incredible amount of data and control. >>> >>> What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching products mid >>> shipment and modified them before sending them out? What's that, the NSA >>> was caught weakening encryption protocols, the Linux kernel, and put >>> backdoors in equipment from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper - >>> putting our own countries citizens and world governments at risk in the >>> process? >>> >>> I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they haven't >>> done shitty things in the past - my problem is you and others are >>> insinuating that every employee Huawei has ever had is some kind of scumbag >>> while simultaneously holding up a different mirror to our own government >>> and its employees. >>> >>> For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective. >>> On Mar 19, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that just having one >>>> of the lead people from Huawei is any connection other than the obvious. >>>> This person could have had issues with the company as well, and left as a >>>> result. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it, simple as that. >>>>> Huawei is both a thief and an arm of the Chinese government. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rory >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:03 PM >>>>> *To:* af >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud based EPC.... you >>>>> can most likely buy your own instead, but that seems to be one of the more >>>>> costly parts of doing LTE. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good interview. A couple things I'm wondering / concerned about >>>>> though. First of all, what's with the $1/month/CPE? I realize it isn't a >>>>> ton of money, just seems like an expense that shouldn't be there. Also, >>>>> I'm a little wary of the Huawei tie-in - although I haven't researched the >>>>> specific "fellow" that they're talking about. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > !DSPAM:2,56ef137a138861700012119! > > >
