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> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:56:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

> I’m not sure I equate “previously owned” with “grey market”. And if Cisco had 
> a
> problem with it, they didn’t have to sell you a Smartnet contract for the used
> gear. Pretty good actually selling a full year HW/SW maintenance contract just
> so you can upgrade the SW.
> What I won’t do is buy the “new” Cisco modules from Hong Kong that are 
> probably
> counterfeit. Even if they are made from the same parts in the same factory.
> From: Bruce Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:23 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview
> I *never* *ever* did that...........................

> On 03/20/2016 02:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

>> Funny, how many of us bought the cheapest Cisco thing we could find and
>> registered it so we could get fresh software for the grey market more 
>> expensive
>> routers we deployed.... hmmm????
>> From: Eric Kuhnke
>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 2:50 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview
>> I really don't see the point of trying to prevent shipments of
>> telecom/IT/networking equipment to Iran, or punishing anybody for selling
>> telecom/IT/networking gear to Iran:

>> 1) If people in Iran really want the stuff they will simply arrange a way to 
>> buy
>> it from Dubai.

>> 2) Isn't it a good thing to ship any sort of computer/networking/ISP gear 
>> into
>> Iran? There's a very active community of Iranians who have come up with local
>> Farsi language documents/training guides and information on how to run Tor, 
>> how
>> to get around government internet censorship, move VPN traffic through their
>> ISPs' blackholes. Iranians want to read unfettered media. The US government 
>> has
>> a whole Farsi language division funded from the Voice of America/BBG
>> (Broadcasting Board of Governors) that is trying to reach Iranians. There 
>> are a
>> shitload of Iranians that want to use Facebook, Whatsapp, Skype, etc. More
>> communication with the outside world is good.

>> http://www.radiofarda.com/

>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > 
>> wrote:

>>> You are familiar with Cisco developing products to aid in China's internet
>>> snooping and repression, right?
>>> On Mar 20, 2016 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>> Recent article raises suspicions Huawei violated Iran sanctions.
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/technology/zte-document-raises-questions-about-huawei-and-sanctions.html?_r=0
>>>> Although expecting Chinese companies to obey our sanctions against Iran 
>>>> and not
>>>> use tricks to get around them is probably unrealistic. But it’s a little
>>>> humorous reading how ZTE copied the tricks of an unnamed company that is
>>>> clearly Huawei.
>>>> From: Mike Hammett
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:44 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview
>>>> Some of it is bull, but the blatant duplication of Cisco is indisputable.

>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>>> The Brothers WISP

>>>> From: "Josh Reynolds" < [email protected] >
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 6:44:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

>>>> Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees China has 
>>>> by any
>>>> chance? What about the number of DoD and general federal workforce? Do 
>>>> those
>>>> members of the workforce - do their policies and beliefs fall 100% in line 
>>>> with
>>>> things the government as a whole says or does?

>>>> You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei was bullshit 
>>>> put
>>>> for by our government who were acting as mouthpieces for Cisco which was 
>>>> later
>>>> RECANTED by our own government in just a few short years and then used in
>>>> FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right?

>>>> I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done anything "bad" 
>>>> in
>>>> your eyes... Since they have direct connections to the CIA and NSA. They 
>>>> have
>>>> an incredible amount of data and control.

>>>> What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching products mid 
>>>> shipment
>>>> and modified them before sending them out? What's that, the NSA was caught
>>>> weakening encryption protocols, the Linux kernel, and put backdoors in
>>>> equipment from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper - putting our 
>>>> own
>>>> countries citizens and world governments at risk in the process?

>>>> I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they haven't done
>>>> shitty things in the past - my problem is you and others are insinuating 
>>>> that
>>>> every employee Huawei has ever had is some kind of scumbag while 
>>>> simultaneously
>>>> holding up a different mirror to our own government and its employees.

>>>> For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective.
>>>> On Mar 19, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie" < 
>>>> [email protected] >
>>>> wrote:

>>>>> I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that just having one of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> lead people from Huawei is any connection other than the obvious. This 
>>>>> person
>>>>> could have had issues with the company as well, and left as a result.

>>>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Rory Conaway < [email protected] > 
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it, simple as that. 
>>>>>> Huawei is
>>>>>> both a thief and an arm of the Chinese government.

>>>>>> Rory

>>>>>> From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:03 PM
>>>>>> To: af
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

>>>>>> I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud based EPC.... you 
>>>>>> can most
>>>>>> likely buy your own instead, but that seems to be one of the more costly 
>>>>>> parts
>>>>>> of doing LTE.

>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie <
>>>>>> [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>>> Good interview. A couple things I'm wondering / concerned about though. 
>>>>>> First of
>>>>>> all, what's with the $1/month/CPE? I realize it isn't a ton of money, 
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> seems like an expense that shouldn't be there. Also, I'm a little wary 
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> Huawei tie-in - although I haven't researched the specific "fellow" that
>>>>>> they're talking about.

>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4

>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>>>>> The Brothers WISP

>> !DSPAM:2,56ef137a138861700012119!

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