Being suspicious of a company because they have a possible association with a known thief is very different from blind suspicion based on religion.
On Monday, March 21, 2016, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow, what can I say, go get your tin foil hat... > > The next thing you will be taking a crap about is that.....Mimosa now has > a team of engineers working out of Turkey...who knows what those damm > Moselems are putting in thier code, as part of Sharia domination of America. > > > Stay fearful my friend. > > :) > > Regards > > Faisal > > Sent from Mobile Device > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Rory Conaway > Date:03/21/2016 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > I don’t think the question is whether or not they are a Chinese company, I > think the question is whether or not Huawei is involved on some level, > either hardware or software. Besides the fact that they entire company is > based on stolen property from day 1, the second part of the argument is > whether or not they are funding or delivering technology to Baicell. Only > Patrick Leary can answer that. I suggest he step in to clarify this. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of *Faisal > Imtiaz > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 8:09 PM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > > > Gotta love these conversations... > > > > What was the original topic ? > > > > Ahhh... Baicells.... a new Mfg. of LTE Products looking to forge entrance > in the WISP Market Space.... who is just starting to establish themselves > in the US, and as such have recruited some of The Most Respected Folks in > the Community !... Patrick, Rick, Boun.. reminds me of a Dream Team being > put together..... > > > > To start throwing mud or imply any FUD, just because they are a Chinese > Company would be a mistake.... I took a look at the Bio of the founders, > and the fact that their founder are not some corporate yo yo's looking to > make some $$, but one of serious engineering backgrounds actively > participating in the LTE Standards committee (Global entity).. says a lot > to me... > > > > I am looking forward to some interesting and exciting times in the WISP > futures ahead !.... Time to grow up into serious operators ! > > > > > > :) > > > > Best of Luck Everyone ! > > > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> > *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Sent: *Sunday, March 20, 2016 8:18:38 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > Ah okay. Had no idea such a thing existed. > > On Mar 20, 2016 7:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > WIC, NM, PA, etc. Plug in card for a modular router. > > > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:08 PM > > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > > > Define module? > > On Mar 20, 2016 6:56 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > I’m not sure I equate “previously owned” with “grey market”. And if Cisco > had a problem with it, they didn’t have to sell you a Smartnet contract for > the used gear. Pretty good actually selling a full year HW/SW maintenance > contract just so you can upgrade the SW. > > > > What I won’t do is buy the “new” Cisco modules from Hong Kong that are > probably counterfeit. Even if they are made from the same parts in the > same factory. > > > > > > *From:* Bruce Robertson <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:23 PM > > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > > > I *never* *ever* did that........................... > > On 03/20/2016 02:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Funny, how many of us bought the cheapest Cisco thing we could find and > registered it so we could get fresh software for the grey market more > expensive routers we deployed.... hmmm???? > > > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 2:50 PM > > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > > > I really don't see the point of trying to prevent shipments of > telecom/IT/networking equipment to Iran, or punishing anybody for selling > telecom/IT/networking gear to Iran: > > 1) If people in Iran really want the stuff they will simply arrange a way > to buy it from Dubai. > > 2) Isn't it a good thing to ship any sort of computer/networking/ISP gear > into Iran? There's a very active community of Iranians who have come up > with local Farsi language documents/training guides and information on how > to run Tor, how to get around government internet censorship, move VPN > traffic through their ISPs' blackholes. Iranians want to read unfettered > media. The US government has a whole Farsi language division funded from > the Voice of America/BBG (Broadcasting Board of Governors) that is trying > to reach Iranians. There are a shitload of Iranians that want to use > Facebook, Whatsapp, Skype, etc. More communication with the outside world > is good. > > http://www.radiofarda.com/ > > > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > You are familiar with Cisco developing products to aid in China's internet > snooping and repression, right? > > On Mar 20, 2016 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Recent article raises suspicions Huawei violated Iran sanctions. > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/technology/zte-document-raises-questions-about-huawei-and-sanctions.html?_r=0 > > > > Although expecting Chinese companies to obey our sanctions against Iran > and not use tricks to get around them is probably unrealistic. But it’s a > little humorous reading how ZTE copied the tricks of an unnamed company > that is clearly Huawei. > > > > > > *From:* Mike Hammett <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:44 AM > > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > > > Some of it is bull, but the blatant duplication of Cisco is indisputable. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > *Midwest Internet Exchange* > > *The Brothers WISP* > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <*[email protected]*> > *To: **[email protected]* > *Sent: *Saturday, March 19, 2016 6:44:02 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees China has > by any chance? What about the number of DoD and general federal workforce? > Do those members of the workforce - do their policies and beliefs fall 100% > in line with things the government as a whole says or does? > > You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei was bullshit > put for by our government who were acting as mouthpieces for Cisco which > was later RECANTED by our own government in just a few short years and then > used in FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right? > > I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done anything "bad" > in your eyes... Since they have direct connections to the CIA and NSA. They > have an incredible amount of data and control. > > What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching products mid > shipment and modified them before sending them out? What's that, the NSA > was caught weakening encryption protocols, the Linux kernel, and put > backdoors in equipment from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper - > putting our own countries citizens and world governments at risk in the > process? > > I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they haven't done > shitty things in the past - my problem is you and others are insinuating > that every employee Huawei has ever had is some kind of scumbag while > simultaneously holding up a different mirror to our own government and its > employees. > > For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective. > > On Mar 19, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie" < > *[email protected]*> wrote: > > I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that just having one of > the lead people from Huawei is any connection other than the obvious. This > person could have had issues with the company as well, and left as a result. > > On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Rory Conaway <*[email protected]*> > wrote: > > If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it, simple as that. > Huawei is both a thief and an arm of the Chinese government. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:*[email protected]*] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:03 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > > > I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud based EPC.... you can > most likely buy your own instead, but that seems to be one of the more > costly parts of doing LTE. > > > > On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie < > *[email protected]*> wrote: > > Good interview. A couple things I'm wondering / concerned about though. > First of all, what's with the $1/month/CPE? I realize it isn't a ton of > money, just seems like an expense that shouldn't be there. Also, I'm a > little wary of the Huawei tie-in - although I haven't researched the > specific "fellow" that they're talking about. > > > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett <*[email protected]*> wrote: > > *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4* > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > *Intelligent Computing Solutions* > > *Midwest Internet Exchange* > > *The Brothers WISP* > > > > > > > > > > > > !DSPAM:2,56ef137a138861700012119! > > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > >
