Ha!

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:04 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another ground question

Oh so I am old now.   Thanks

On Mar 31, 2016 7:59 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> wrote:

  Probably just shaky hands right when the camera snapped.

  Josh Luthman
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  On Mar 31, 2016 9:55 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:

    OK   I will get a new phone... but first suffer

    On Mar 31, 2016 7:49 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:

      Dude, get a new phone, my eyes hurt now. Sorry, just being honest.


      On 3/31/2016 8:31 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

        We do isolate them...

        On Mar 31, 2016 7:11 PM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote:

          Do you need to?  We want them all to go to the earth eventually 
right? 



          On 3/31/2016 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

            Are you isolating your DC and AC grounds? 

            On Mar 31, 2016 4:44 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

              If the two pieces of metal are not connected together, like if 
one of them is floating except for stray high resistance paths to ground, then 
I wouldn’t pay much attention to the voltmeter reading.  Especially if you are 
using a high impedance digital meter.

              Or if they are connected via a wire carrying high current, 0.1 
volt may not mean much.  If you have 10 amps flowing through a wire with 0.01 
ohms resistance, there’s your 0.1 volt.

              If that second piece of metal is grounded to your common ground 
point with a wire that should not be carrying any current, then I might worry 
about the 0.1 volt.  You might have a ground loop.

              Are you seeing a DC or AC voltage?


              From: George Skorup 
              Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 5:32 PM
              To: [email protected] 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another ground question

              That's what i was going to say. If it's a cheap meter, don't 
worry about it. Bond everything and you should be fine.


              On 3/31/2016 5:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

                Depends on the meter.  Does the meter read 0.0 when the leads 
are shorted together?
                Some meters have some random fluctuations in the least 
significant digit all the time.  

                From: Josh Baird 
                Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 3:24 PM
                To: [email protected] 
                Subject: [AFMUG] Another ground question

                I'm working on a new DC enclosure (steel 19" rackmount 
cabinet).  When using a DC volt meter, and putting the 'red' lead on a common 
ground point (my ground bus, a metal rack rail, etc), and the 'black' lead on 
something metal, I'm seeing ~0.1V.

                I'm assuming this is bad.  On the bench currently, I have the 
AC ground connected to my PSU.  I have all other devices (switch, surge 
suppressors, rack rails, etc) tied to a common ground that isn't yet connected 
to earth.  My PSU and power distribution is on a metal DIN rail which in turn 
is mounted to the metal rack rails. 

                Should I be concerned with this?  As much as I try (or not), I 
still have trouble wrapping my head around ground/ground potential/etc.

                Josh







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