Only if you're younger than me.  I have the least steady hand I know of.

Josh Luthman
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On Mar 31, 2016 10:04 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh so I am old now.   Thanks
> On Mar 31, 2016 7:59 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Probably just shaky hands right when the camera snapped.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 31, 2016 9:55 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK   I will get a new phone... but first suffer
>>> On Mar 31, 2016 7:49 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dude, get a new phone, my eyes hurt now. Sorry, just being honest.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/31/2016 8:31 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We do isolate them...
>>>> On Mar 31, 2016 7:11 PM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do you need to?  We want them all to go to the earth eventually right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/31/2016 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Are you isolating your DC and AC grounds?
>>>> On Mar 31, 2016 4:44 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If the two pieces of metal are not connected together, like if one of
>>>>> them is floating except for stray high resistance paths to ground, then I
>>>>> wouldn’t pay much attention to the voltmeter reading.  Especially if you
>>>>> are using a high impedance digital meter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or if they are connected via a wire carrying high current, 0.1 volt
>>>>> may not mean much.  If you have 10 amps flowing through a wire with 0.01
>>>>> ohms resistance, there’s your 0.1 volt.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that second piece of metal is grounded to your common ground point
>>>>> with a wire that should not be carrying any current, then I might worry
>>>>> about the 0.1 volt.  You might have a ground loop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you seeing a DC or AC voltage?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* George Skorup <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 5:32 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Another ground question
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what i was going to say. If it's a cheap meter, don't worry
>>>>> about it. Bond everything and you should be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/31/2016 5:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends on the meter.  Does the meter read 0.0 when the leads are
>>>>> shorted together?
>>>>> Some meters have some random fluctuations in the least significant
>>>>> digit all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Josh Baird <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 3:24 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Another ground question
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm working on a new DC enclosure (steel 19" rackmount cabinet).  When
>>>>> using a DC volt meter, and putting the 'red' lead on a common ground point
>>>>> (my ground bus, a metal rack rail, etc), and the 'black' lead on something
>>>>> metal, I'm seeing ~0.1V.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm assuming this is bad.  On the bench currently, I have the AC
>>>>> ground connected to my PSU.  I have all other devices (switch, surge
>>>>> suppressors, rack rails, etc) tied to a common ground that isn't yet
>>>>> connected to earth.  My PSU and power distribution is on a metal DIN rail
>>>>> which in turn is mounted to the metal rack rails.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I be concerned with this?  As much as I try (or not), I still
>>>>> have trouble wrapping my head around ground/ground potential/etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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