You're getting old-timers disease.

On 3/31/2016 9:04 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Oh so I am old now.   Thanks

On Mar 31, 2016 7:59 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Probably just shaky hands right when the camera snapped.

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    On Mar 31, 2016 9:55 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        OK   I will get a new phone... but first suffer

        On Mar 31, 2016 7:49 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Dude, get a new phone, my eyes hurt now. Sorry, just being
            honest.

            On 3/31/2016 8:31 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

            We do isolate them...

            On Mar 31, 2016 7:11 PM, "Adam Moffett"
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Do you need to?  We want them all to go to the earth
                eventually right?


                On 3/31/2016 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

                Are you isolating your DC and AC grounds?

                On Mar 31, 2016 4:44 PM, "Ken Hohhof"
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    If the two pieces of metal are not connected
                    together, like if one of them is floating except
                    for stray high resistance paths to ground, then
                    I wouldn’t pay much attention to the voltmeter
                    reading. Especially if you are using a high
                    impedance digital meter.
                    Or if they are connected via a wire carrying
                    high current, 0.1 volt may not mean much.  If
                    you have 10 amps flowing through a wire with
                    0.01 ohms resistance, there’s your 0.1 volt.
                    If that second piece of metal is grounded to
                    your common ground point with a wire that should
                    not be carrying any current, then I might worry
                    about the 0.1 volt.  You might have a ground loop.
                    Are you seeing a DC or AC voltage?
                    *From:* George Skorup <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 5:32 PM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Another ground question
                    That's what i was going to say. If it's a cheap
                    meter, don't worry about it. Bond everything and
                    you should be fine.

                    On 3/31/2016 5:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
                    Depends on the meter.  Does the meter read 0.0
                    when the leads are shorted together?
                    Some meters have some random fluctuations in
                    the least significant digit all the time.
                    *From:* Josh Baird <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 3:24 PM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Subject:* [AFMUG] Another ground question
                    I'm working on a new DC enclosure (steel 19"
                    rackmount cabinet).  When using a DC volt
                    meter, and putting the 'red' lead on a common
                    ground point (my ground bus, a metal rack rail,
                    etc), and the 'black' lead on something metal,
                    I'm seeing ~0.1V.

                    I'm assuming this is bad.  On the bench
                    currently, I have the AC ground connected to my
                    PSU.  I have all other devices (switch, surge
                    suppressors, rack rails, etc) tied to a common
                    ground that isn't yet connected to earth.  My
                    PSU and power distribution is on a metal DIN
                    rail which in turn is mounted to the metal rack
                    rails.
                    Should I be concerned with this?  As much as I
                    try (or not), I still have trouble wrapping my
                    head around ground/ground potential/etc.
                    Josh




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