Night all...woke up at 4 am...long day
On Mar 31, 2016 8:28 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> wrote:

> What?!  Speak louder I'm deaf in one eye.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
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> On Mar 31, 2016 10:13 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You're getting old-timers disease.
>>
>> On 3/31/2016 9:04 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Oh so I am old now.   Thanks
>> On Mar 31, 2016 7:59 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Probably just shaky hands right when the camera snapped.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Mar 31, 2016 9:55 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK   I will get a new phone... but first suffer
>>>> On Mar 31, 2016 7:49 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dude, get a new phone, my eyes hurt now. Sorry, just being honest.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/31/2016 8:31 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We do isolate them...
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2016 7:11 PM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you need to?  We want them all to go to the earth eventually right?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/31/2016 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you isolating your DC and AC grounds?
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2016 4:44 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If the two pieces of metal are not connected together, like if one of
>>>>>> them is floating except for stray high resistance paths to ground, then I
>>>>>> wouldn’t pay much attention to the voltmeter reading.  Especially if you
>>>>>> are using a high impedance digital meter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or if they are connected via a wire carrying high current, 0.1 volt
>>>>>> may not mean much.  If you have 10 amps flowing through a wire with 0.01
>>>>>> ohms resistance, there’s your 0.1 volt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that second piece of metal is grounded to your common ground point
>>>>>> with a wire that should not be carrying any current, then I might worry
>>>>>> about the 0.1 volt.  You might have a ground loop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you seeing a DC or AC voltage?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* George Skorup <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 5:32 PM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Another ground question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what i was going to say. If it's a cheap meter, don't worry
>>>>>> about it. Bond everything and you should be fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/31/2016 5:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends on the meter.  Does the meter read 0.0 when the leads are
>>>>>> shorted together?
>>>>>> Some meters have some random fluctuations in the least significant
>>>>>> digit all the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Josh Baird <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 3:24 PM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Another ground question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm working on a new DC enclosure (steel 19" rackmount cabinet).
>>>>>> When using a DC volt meter, and putting the 'red' lead on a common ground
>>>>>> point (my ground bus, a metal rack rail, etc), and the 'black' lead on
>>>>>> something metal, I'm seeing ~0.1V.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm assuming this is bad.  On the bench currently, I have the AC
>>>>>> ground connected to my PSU.  I have all other devices (switch, surge
>>>>>> suppressors, rack rails, etc) tied to a common ground that isn't yet
>>>>>> connected to earth.  My PSU and power distribution is on a metal DIN rail
>>>>>> which in turn is mounted to the metal rack rails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should I be concerned with this?  As much as I try (or not), I still
>>>>>> have trouble wrapping my head around ground/ground potential/etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>

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