Whats the problem with the riser(xtended x-connect) charge if they give you a set of strands? If you are trying to bring circuits over to DRT for lower x-connect, there are economies of scale like anything, but long term it makes sense. That's if you can not negotiate with Equinix. We will be in dual DCs in a few POPs by the end of they year for this reason.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network [email protected] Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > Two different things and at one point three different companies. > > The Equinix rep said to get lower per XC price, you'd need 500 XCs. I know > that isn't true because we got lower pricing. > > TelX manages the MMR and the riser, while DRT owns the building. Yes, I > know DRT bought TelX. That riser charge was $800. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Sunday, June 19, 2016 4:35:42 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? > > Have never paid riser fees in any location ever FYI, although 111 8th in > NYC you are paying for it per say between floors but it’s not broken out > (at least for me)… and it’s definitely a lot less than 500 XC’s – it’s > related to MRC derived from power/space/XC’s combined with negotiation > skills and the market too. > > > > Paul > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* June 19, 2016 11:55 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? > > > > Right. One rep told us we'd need to be around 500 XCs to get a lower rate > (which I know isn't true). Even our TelX rep said that the difference in > space pricing wasn't enough to make up for the riser fee. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Sunday, June 19, 2016 10:50:46 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? > > Equinix will negotiate if you have enough business with them and also > having an alternate option to go to (Telx/DR runs the building MMR @ 350 > Cermak). This DC/Bldg Mgmt war will go on forever. You do what fits > right for the time. > > > Hence why we are doing what we are doing, it helps everyone save in the > long run. Can't stress this enough......... Every major POP we go into > we automatically take a port or two to the local exchange and if has the > major peers (google,netflix, etc..) So all you IXPs we want major peers!! > :) > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > [email protected] > Office: 630-621-4804 > Cell: 630-777-9291 > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Of course. Leaving Equinix is even worse as you have a $350/month cross > connect and then an $800/month riser fee. > > That's why I specified Equinix at 350 E. Cermak. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Sunday, June 19, 2016 12:47:03 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? > > You know that Equinix doesn't own or run 350 E. Cermak, right? They're > just one tenant. It's owned by Digital Realty Trust. > > > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > > In some markets, that's the only viable place to go. Chicago, for > instance. Equinix at 350 E. Cermak has a commanding lead over anywhere else > for connectivity. With AMS-IX, Megaport and United-IX here now, we'll > likely see some of that shift around a bit, but it'll take time. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > *Midwest Internet Exchange* > > *The Brothers WISP* > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <*[email protected]*> > *To: **[email protected]* > *Sent: *Friday, June 17, 2016 11:02:51 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > Smart people don't start leases in Equinix facilities unless they have > absolutely, positively no other option. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Mike Hammett <*[email protected]*> wrote: > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > In an Equinix facility, 1G ports are very expensive... at $350/month per > cross connect. :-) <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > *Intelligent Computing Solutions* > > *Midwest Internet Exchange* > > *The Brothers WISP* > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <*[email protected]*> > *To: **[email protected]* > *Sent: *Friday, June 17, 2016 10:10:58 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > Once upon a time, that was probably said about 10G links. Before then, > about 1G links. Those 1G ports are expensive you know. > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Paul Stewart <*[email protected]*> > wrote: <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > Had a demo of that platform a month or so ago .. wasn’t public obviously - > pretty impressive but a lot jammed into a “small package” … tough sell for > folks who need that kind of density, personal opinion is to keep things > more “spread out” on 100G links reducing areas of risk, but I digress as > that’s more design/resiliency related :) <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Mike Hammett <*[email protected]*> wrote: > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > Don't worry, no one has. First public pictures. > > *https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/910364895755630* > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > *Intelligent Computing Solutions* > > *Midwest Internet Exchange* > > *The Brothers WISP* > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > >
