Having a cabinet in Telx and Equinix covers probably 99% of providers and major IX connectivity. So where is the problem?
Erich Kaiser North Central Tower [email protected] Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > If you want to have Equinix IX connectivity as well as connectivity to the > variety of carriers present, that means you have to be in Equinix's CH1, > CH2 or CH4. Those datacenters are routinely out of power, so you can't just > buy a cabinet whenever you feel like it. They're only available when > someone else has canceled theirs. Given the riser charge, you can't just > take a cabinet in TelX, Steadfast, CME or any of the others due to the $800 > riser fee. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:19:53 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? > > Whats the problem with the riser(xtended x-connect) charge if they give > you a set of strands? If you are trying to bring circuits over to DRT for > lower x-connect, there are economies of scale like anything, but long term > it makes sense. That's if you can not negotiate with Equinix. We will be > in dual DCs in a few POPs by the end of they year for this reason. > > Erich Kaiser > The Fusion Network > [email protected] > Office: 630-621-4804 > Cell: 630-777-9291 > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Two different things and at one point three different companies. >> >> The Equinix rep said to get lower per XC price, you'd need 500 XCs. I >> know that isn't true because we got lower pricing. >> >> TelX manages the MMR and the riser, while DRT owns the building. Yes, I >> know DRT bought TelX. That riser charge was $800. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Sunday, June 19, 2016 4:35:42 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? >> >> Have never paid riser fees in any location ever FYI, although 111 8th in >> NYC you are paying for it per say between floors but it’s not broken out >> (at least for me)… and it’s definitely a lot less than 500 XC’s – it’s >> related to MRC derived from power/space/XC’s combined with negotiation >> skills and the market too. >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* June 19, 2016 11:55 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? >> >> >> >> Right. One rep told us we'd need to be around 500 XCs to get a lower rate >> (which I know isn't true). Even our TelX rep said that the difference in >> space pricing wasn't enough to make up for the riser fee. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Sunday, June 19, 2016 10:50:46 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? >> >> Equinix will negotiate if you have enough business with them and also >> having an alternate option to go to (Telx/DR runs the building MMR @ 350 >> Cermak). This DC/Bldg Mgmt war will go on forever. You do what fits >> right for the time. >> >> >> Hence why we are doing what we are doing, it helps everyone save in the >> long run. Can't stress this enough......... Every major POP we go into >> we automatically take a port or two to the local exchange and if has the >> major peers (google,netflix, etc..) So all you IXPs we want major peers!! >> :) >> >> Erich Kaiser >> North Central Tower >> [email protected] >> Office: 630-621-4804 >> Cell: 630-777-9291 >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Of course. Leaving Equinix is even worse as you have a $350/month cross >> connect and then an $800/month riser fee. >> >> That's why I specified Equinix at 350 E. Cermak. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Sunday, June 19, 2016 12:47:03 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? >> >> You know that Equinix doesn't own or run 350 E. Cermak, right? They're >> just one tenant. It's owned by Digital Realty Trust. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> In some markets, that's the only viable place to go. Chicago, for >> instance. Equinix at 350 E. Cermak has a commanding lead over anywhere else >> for connectivity. With AMS-IX, Megaport and United-IX here now, we'll >> likely see some of that shift around a bit, but it'll take time. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> *Midwest Internet Exchange* >> >> *The Brothers WISP* >> >> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> ------------------------------ >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <*[email protected]*> >> *To: **[email protected]* >> *Sent: *Friday, June 17, 2016 11:02:51 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Smart people don't start leases in Equinix facilities unless they have >> absolutely, positively no other option. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Mike Hammett <*[email protected]*> wrote: >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> In an Equinix facility, 1G ports are very expensive... at $350/month per >> cross connect. :-) <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> *Intelligent Computing Solutions* >> >> *Midwest Internet Exchange* >> >> *The Brothers WISP* >> >> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> ------------------------------ >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <*[email protected]*> >> *To: **[email protected]* >> *Sent: *Friday, June 17, 2016 10:10:58 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Seen this Brocade before? >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Once upon a time, that was probably said about 10G links. Before then, >> about 1G links. Those 1G ports are expensive you know. >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Paul Stewart <*[email protected]*> >> wrote: <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Had a demo of that platform a month or so ago .. wasn’t public obviously >> - pretty impressive but a lot jammed into a “small package” … tough sell >> for folks who need that kind of density, personal opinion is to keep things >> more “spread out” on 100G links reducing areas of risk, but I digress as >> that’s more design/resiliency related :) <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Mike Hammett <*[email protected]*> wrote: >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Don't worry, no one has. First public pictures. >> >> *https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/910364895755630* >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> *Intelligent Computing Solutions* >> >> *Midwest Internet Exchange* >> >> *The Brothers WISP* >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> >> > >
